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Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 19, 2019, 05:48:48 AM »
8) We also have a nostalgia meet at the end of April hoping to complete licencing passes beforehand so we can race.
Will be my first passes in many years, can't wait. ;D

Good luck to you, you'll have a blast getting behind the wheel again.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 18, 2019, 08:07:16 PM »
PS Forgot to say nice build.  8)
How long before you hit the track.

thanks sir, made one little hit to about 400ft at MM. there is a FED race locally end of april.  hope to get a few hits in before then.

concerning the bottles.. im done with the conversation.


Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 17, 2019, 12:26:33 PM »
Yes Bruce I would say something ! Dean why don't you send a picture of your bottle mounts to your Division tech director and this way if you have to make a change you can do it ahead of time and avoid any problems when you go to the next race !

they are solidly and legally mounted.  just like N&P does, any altered, etc..   only issue is, as the jerk pointed out what is ballast per 4:2.   are they ballast or are they safety and how do you argue the point if questioned?  irregardless, ill extend the front out another ten inches like its really going to do anything if i do become a wall flower.  doesnt make a bit of difference if its a FED or altered, anyone who tags wall with the front and the bottles up front will have the same issue. 


Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 15, 2019, 01:30:32 PM »
Well, if the tech inspector asks me if I did it to add weight I'll say no, I did it for safety . :o

I got a plan.  I'll extend the nose to legal limits and make a nice 12" tall flag at front so I can gain that 1" advantage assuming a perfect race lol. I was looking for a name for the car. I'll think I'll call it hammer head after this fiasco lol. (I'm joking  :P)

Thanks for the compliments everyone. Time to hit the track  ;D

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 14, 2019, 04:41:41 PM »

i looked in the rules for 7.0 'support group 9' or general regulations 9:3 does it say ANYTHING about the fire bottles extending past the front of the frame.  please call out the section where it says nothing can be out in front of the frame.

as far as me putting the bottles out there, i understand the valid points with concerns to impacting a wall, another car, etc and potential hazards.  I have never been around these things till couple of years ago.  when i looked for the manual on how to build a front engine dragster and where to put things i could not find one.   everything you mount in the car is purely a judgemental decision, for one who has never done this, the judgement is limited due to inexperience and exposure to this type of vehicle.  to do again, i would probably do a few things different.  nevertheless In my mind i did nothing wrong with putting them where i did other then the points mentioned, which i did not consider.  so if you want to stick in my butt for being a novice and making what you feel is a mistake so be it.  i thought it was a cool idea and thing to do for weight concerns so i did it. 

tell me what else you feel is a problem so we can get on with it and make the necessary changes so we dont have this bs anymore.   


Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 14, 2019, 02:02:12 PM »
I don't know about the bottles bieng outside the frame rails and first pint of contact.  Where in the rules does it state this.

It's a mute point for my car as the bottles are under 40" from CL of axle.

If u pop me then pop the guy in a/fuel who has had them out there for years.  (I think it's a fuel, I have pic of car.)

If 200 mph = 293 ft/sec
isnt that 29.3 feet per 1/10 of a second?
2.93 feet per 1/100 of a second?
and .293 feet per 1/1000 of a second?
.293 feet x 12 in/ft = 3.516 inches per 1/1000 second?
at 200 mph

This would be correct. But then the question is not a foot but the difference beyond the legal stated distance over 40".  So hypothetically if it's 4" then say 1.2 inch roughly. That's how I would calc it.

Good to know it's 40" as that gives me room to extend the nose out further.  I'll be sure to make it a tall nose pc.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 13, 2019, 04:18:15 PM »
now that im home and thinking about this a bit more even though im still pissed at the jerk.   my bottles stick out 4" max past the nose/end of the chassis.  legally i think your allowed up to 30" past the spindle center line.  the bitching is to the wheel but we will stick with what is legal per nhra.  if your ride doesnt fit it, thats your problem as noted.

200mph / 60 min/hr = 3.33 ft/second
3.33 ft /sec  / 60sec/min = .055 feet/sec
.055 ft/sec    / 60 = .0009ft /tenth of sec
.0009 ft / 60 = .000015 ft / hundredths.

since were assuming both cars are perfect like Bruce then it would probably come down to 'x' hundredths of a second difference.   since the distance is .000015ft and were talking about 4" the distance is really .000006 ft.. you guys are really going to bitch about that!   seriously?

as stated before, aside from Bruce being perfect.. how many races has anyone seen where the drivers have the same reaction time, same et, and same mph?   if you did how many runs have you watched in your life to see that happen?

we worked hard to get the car out to the track and you have to first insinuate this was done for an advantage and second you have to just kick a guy in the balls with this kind of BS.   just flippin ridiculous.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 13, 2019, 10:05:31 AM »
Bruce, this just eats at me but it seems it's your nature to be Mr perfect and hall monitor. I've never even been in a few down the track untill Saturday.  It just amazes me that your concerned about some guy who is new to this type of racing. I would be lucky to win a round the first year out or even a race. 

Aside from that, it's the implication that I put them out there to gain an advantage.  I did it for weight as I figured it would need some. The other thing too is at 200 mph at the finish line between two cars your taking greater the .0009 feet in.001 seconds..  How many index races have you been involved in where both left exactly the same and ended exaclty the same.  I think this is a very very very ,.......... Very...  Rare occurrence. Maybe one in a thousand or more as a guess? . 

Times are changing, even though this is nostalgia race the cars evolve with time.  If you don't like the direction then change your car or maybe this isn't for you anymore.  I get you guys have a minimal setup but that's your decision. Just because the design of the cars have changed to what you view is not necessarily representative of the 60s isn't mine or anyone else's problem, it's yours.   

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 12, 2019, 06:26:40 PM »
to be frank, you usually are.  ill only race two of those races and maybe one or two at sac for heritage.  if i get popped ill know who to thank are most jerks (whiners) are the ones to snitch.... Ill be more then happy to stay at home and race the local nostalgia races where they dont care about that crap. also, if it was really a concern i think ken would of been nice enough to notify me when he was AT MY HOUSE teching my car and also in the pits when i asked him a question.  Again, if its an issue it will be because SOMEONE BITCHED.... time will tell what jerk will bitch.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: March 03, 2019, 09:38:47 PM »
well, i scrapped the seat.  ill do another one down the road.  i know now that 25lb system is toooooo much.  the 15lb would of worked fine.  the material had no place to go.

anyways, we got the motor in and running.  our push is to make march meet which we are taking the fed but have few little things to work through.  one is, i didnt put the convertor in all the way.  motor is running, wheels are not spinning.  after speaking to few ppl thats the consensus.  everything is brand new and so it make sense.  will pull the trans back wenday and see or make the convertor go in  and should be good (i hope haha)

one of the great things about going to an event like this is all the knowledge that is available. that in itself is worth the trip.  My buddy jeff is the motor head (his motor) and he is making very good contacts and getting help from some great people.   weve both had great help along the way and really appreciate every bit of it and the people offering it.

anyways, enough jibber jabber.   here it is getting loaded.  i can get the fed and the cart in no problem in 28' trailer with 26' on the deck (cabinets)

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: February 17, 2019, 05:08:15 PM »
I like your fire bottle mounts looks like a good way to keep weight on the front ! Car looks great !

thank you sir.  i think once i get the rest of the body done it will look a lot better. I really like the looks of a full body.

so today finally getting around to doing a creaform pour in seat.  one thing i like about the creaform is you have plenty of time to play with it and conform it.  when i purchased the kit from Pegasus Auto Racing i didnt know what size to get so i got the large.  I can say that is to much as you can see in the pics there is a lot of excess.  i would probably get the one that uses the largest bag but not so much material.  which i think is the large from them.  when i got the kit, it comes from Bald Spot Sports  I would of purchased from them if i had done a little bit better research.  looking at BSS website you can see they do pro drag racing seats and they have a few vids online which shows pretty much how it goes.

so, initial after watching videos, purchasing a vac pump, gauge etc i did went about things as they show.   one thing off the bat i think i would do differently is heat up the resin and catalyst more.  its been in the house so about 70 deg.  it was pretty thick when went to go mix it.  it did not appear like it does in the vids. 

i mixed it up for few minutes to where i thought it was mixed well as could be then poured in.  it went right to the bottom of the bag and kind of clumped there.  i htink if was warmer and thinner it would of dispersed better.   i started to push and mix and really doesnt feel like anything is happening with the liquid interacting with the beads so that parts an unknown.  i did this about ten minutes as instructions say. 

i laid out the bag, taped the end, and then tried to even in it out thorughout the bag.  in the back of my mind i was concerned about the lower lumbar area and i think got to much or made it too thick through the torso area.   

went to stick it in the car and as you can see in the photos way too much material.  i jumped in real quick to kind pre-mold the seat then got dressed and jumped back in.  My buddy Jeff was helping me as this isnt really a one person job.  he pushed and needed around areas but in the end i think there is too much back up around the shoulder areas.  one problem is there is just too much material to deal with.  so, im hoping for one the resin did get everywhere and second ill be able to mold or sand a little bit tomorrow when i go to take it out and trim etc. 

so for now here is a couple of pics.  one thing, in the instructions they say 2lbs vac and i dont think the HF pump is pulling that;  but it is pulling a vacuum.  im not to confident right not that it will turn out ok but if this doesnt turn out ok ill get a smaller kit...  I wont use the fabric till it fits nice.  the other thing to note is, when your sitting in the seat without your suit on or any padding you kind of sit way down in there.  when you do the pour in seat, its amazing what one inch up and forward does for cockpit space. 

ill report back in a few days progress on how it turned out.

They say to smooth out the wrinkles.  i tried a little bit then said screw it.  i get to messin with things and ill mess it up more if thats the case.  i know a lot of that will be cut out. 

Front Engine Dragsters / Re: how much weight are you adding 225"
« on: February 09, 2019, 07:57:24 PM »
My opinion here. The longer the wheelbase (Lever) the lighter the front needs to be.  The more horsepower the heavier it needs to be. Bottom line it it is a balancing job to get it right and if there is too much up front car will not work. IMHO.
My car is 225 inches with 760 Hp, 1730 with 389 up front.  Did not work very good. So I am moving weight and making other major changes. I believe on my car it needs to carry front tires out a ways to keep rear tires planted. Right now it pops them up drops them back down and unloads rear tires. Also I am thinking on this car a stiff sidewall tire may help this chassis work better. My goal is to get it to hook good on any track. Now 300 does not sound like much weight and it is not but look at how long the chassis is and that works like a long lever.

I think on my car with my horsepower it really needs to be around 300 LBS up front.  Once I get it right then probably 10 LBS over front wheels would make a difference.

Do you even know what the static weight is up front?  Where is battery located? Fuel cell? How big is it? With a 225 inch car I would shoot for 300-320 up front as a starting point.

Nobody can answer how much weight to add if we do not know what the static weight is.

thank you for the reply, i have not weighed it yet.  ill see if i can locate some scales locally and do that first. fuel cell is 6 gal i think, its about 30" back of front axle.  battery weighs 2lbs, 10oz co2 bottle weighs prob 5lbs.  thinking about it, i dont have spoke wheels so im guessing teh welds are probably twice as heavy as spokes and also the fire bottles are in front of front axle and im guessing 30lbs between those two items.   

Thank you

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: February 09, 2019, 05:01:26 PM »
here is a better pic of the rear run stand. 

I made some lead bars this morning.  i work for a roofing company so was able to repurpose some flashing lead of tile roof. some of them are little tapered but i can re-pour them down the road if need be.  i dont know how much lead ill have to add so i made 70 lbs im guessing.  the mold by my calcs was 10lbs each bar.  i dont have a scale so ill have a freind weigh them. im guessing ill have to have at least 70lbs up front.  the two fire bottles im guessing weigh about 15lbs each?   the chassis is narrow up front so i might have to make them longer to get more weight if need be. 

wasnt really too bad doing the molds, used the burner at work that they use for soldering with and then got some map gas and put on the top side. once it melts, whatever you stick in goes pretty quick.  had to skim off the old paint from the flashing lead.  was kind of fun actually once i figured it out.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: February 09, 2019, 04:25:42 PM »
My buddy Jeff (its his motor) goes to put on the coil plug wire on the coil and the end broke off.  so he had to order another coil.  even though it hurts financially right now as we are both scraping to get it running its probably a good thing it happened. 

so he gets a new coil and i needed to make another mount.  the coil uses spades instead of o-ring connectors. I dont really dig the spades. sence there are a few wires going to the coil and not having an isolated post i figured i would use some plastic sheet i have laying around and sort of make one.  If this doesnt work ill break down and get some from vtec

here is pic of the motor, just need to put the blow-down vents on and few misc other things. 

i had to roll it out and put the vw in the back part of the garage.  i have to do some work on the vw so fig id put it in the back so make it easier to deal with the fed.

The chassis builder has to make me another fuel tank.  then i want to put a full body on it.  so that will be my task over the summer and maybe see about paint next year.  been thinking about what type profile nose to make for it.  eventually i would like to stick front wing on it and of course canards.

I have the stuff to do creaform pour-in seat. with any luck we will do that tomorrow.  Next week ill order some new skins for the back. I think im going to get the new Hoosier 33-15 x 15 stiff sidewall and see how that works.

Your Builds / Photo Gallery / Re: new experiences - my 225" fed
« on: February 09, 2019, 04:12:14 PM »
ok, been awhile since posting progress.  long story short, where about 98% ready.  will start the motor this week sometimes, maybe make shake down runs next sat to get our feet wet then hit it harder the next weekend and see if we can get advanced et lic passes in so we can run 7.0 at march meet.

ill just post bunch of pics.  i did what i thought was correct but things can always be changed and some things probably will once we get some time in.

i attempted to do rear engine run stand and it did not turn out well.  so months later i tried again and it came out ok.  prob an inch or two narrower then id like but i hope it wil work ok.  eventually ill get some pro jacks.  i need to make couple plugs for the ends for the 1/2" pins to go into.  right now i put washers on each end thinking it would be ok.. but its not hahaha. 

so, im frugal (cheap).. i made a shift and oil light out of trailer marker lights.  i did this on my door car.  this is 9 LED light, it might not be bright enough but will see.  I have looked a little bit online at say 1157/1156 size bulbs and there are some out there. ill find another LED bulb that is bright and make some smaller diameter ones.  i probably have 10 bucks into each one.  they are 2" so a little big on OD.   I made the gauge pod and just painted it.  it wasnt really polishable and i was impatient making it to spend the time to sand and try to polish it.  i can get it powder coated down the road. 

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