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Title: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 19, 2013, 09:02:58 AM
I'm a Ford guy. A couple of years back, I saw some old stagger bolt sbc offy valve covers, and thought they belong on a FED. So, I bought them. Yesterday, I bought an ALGON sbc fuel injection intake.

So much for brand loyality.  :D

Ken
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: masracingtd1167 on July 19, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
All you have left to do is jack those injector's up and put a f.e.d. under them!!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 19, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
It's going to be a slow build...........

I did get a Cherry Burrell pump for it today!

Sweet!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: afaulk on July 20, 2013, 02:37:33 PM
I used to be a Ford guy but I got over it. You can too!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: George on July 20, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
I'm a Ford guy, racing partner is Mopar for sure and we have a SBC in the car.

 It's a good compromise. ;D
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: wideopen231 on July 21, 2013, 08:22:07 AM
amazing how some of you are getting so much smarter with age.If not for having 3 tfx-92 hemi's sitting here and shelf full of parts I would have small or bi chevy in my fed.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 21, 2013, 08:40:34 AM
I wanted to be different. Not just another sbc / glide digger.

I've got a Ford 300 I6 I thought about using, but when the SBC Algon Injection presented itself, well, even though it'll be another sbc setup, it'll be different.  :D

Got some old Cragar slots yesterday for the project.

Even though I'm a multi year build due to funds, I'm stoked!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: GlennLever on July 21, 2013, 09:48:32 AM
I wanted to be different. Not just another sbc / glide digger.

I've got a Ford 300 I6 I thought about using, but when the SBC Algon Injection presented itself, well, even though it'll be another sbc setup, it'll be different.  :D

Got some old Cragar slots yesterday for the project.

Even though I'm a multi year build due to funds, I'm stoked!
Start a build thread under the build thread category.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 21, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
Oh Glenn, so far I'm collecting parts, not building.  ;D

A buddy is driving up to Alaska next summer, so my building efforts won't start until next winter. I plan on loading him up with stuff that's hard to come by up here.  :D

This winter I'm planning on mocking up the cockpit in wood / plywood so I can order up the bends. That way I'll know what I'll fit and not mess up the bend order.

Watchin' grass grow would be more productive that watching things "progress" with me. LOL
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: tylercrawford on July 22, 2013, 06:12:48 AM
I know how you feel . . . other than a wore out 283 that I rebuilt for a friend of mine to put in a XJ, I had never messed with chebby junk until the dragster.

I went the SBC/glide route because it was the cheapest and most period correct looking (motor anyways) for a 64/65 deal.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: wideopen231 on July 22, 2013, 08:22:11 AM
man a built 283 or 327 would be fun.I have 2 of each that are factory pieces(never been rebuilt). Loosing 243 cubes would be backing down a lot tho. I might build one after cars done to thro in for fun.

Man you guys are bad influence,like I ever need any incouragement to do something.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 22, 2013, 08:38:53 AM
Tyler, my plan is a 3 speed saginaw. Might try to pull first gear out of it the way I hear the short track dirt guys do. Lever for reverse, and a lever for 2 & 3. To many sbc /glide combo's in the world already.  ;D

Wideopen, I just want a front engine dragster to fulfil a lifelong dream.....Started down this road once before, and my ex got all my parts I had collected in the divorce. They're  sittin' in an rotten down old house on her father's farm.

I originally planned on limiting myself to a max of 301ci like JR Fuel back in the day. But if I end up with a 327, I'll keep it a 327.

I want to stay as vintage as possible with being able to run under IHRA rules. The local track is IHRA.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: masracingtd1167 on July 22, 2013, 10:16:16 AM
There are two kind of people in this world People who race smallblock's and people who wish they did !!!HA HA HA HA !!!!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: wideopen231 on July 22, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
wonder how a 302 SBC would run in dragster.If you have never driven anything with one the moon is almost the limit rpm wise.If you can afford the valvetrain for the rpm it will wind them for ever.Had one in home built dune buggy 8500 rpm was nothing. Small crank would limit torque,so might not be fastest thing out there. It would be fun,which is why Im broke had lots of fun in life.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: masracingtd1167 on July 22, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
On a nitrous pass my car crosses at 9700 ! It sounds like an air die grinder!
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: George on July 22, 2013, 06:49:04 PM
My checkbook won't support it but I have seen the the MSD chips in the JR fuel cars. It's above 10,000.
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Dolmetsch on July 23, 2013, 04:08:41 AM
I've got a Ford 300 I6 I thought about using, but when the SBC Algon Injection presented itself, well, even though it'll be another sbc setup, it'll be different. 
300 Ford 6: I have built a few of these for racing. They are in my opinion one of the best engines Ford ever built.
Besides 8 cylinders are for people who dont know how to make horsepower (or have fun.)
SBC are like belly buttons. Everyone has one but no one knows why.
I am a Mopar guy but I would encourage you to build the 300. It would take a lot more then an injection and a pair of valve covers to get me to switch. (And I have done lots of SBC too BTW) Cars like the famous Thumper 300 Ford FED which my old boss and friend ran for years after he bought it from the lads in Peterborugh. Folks remember cars like these years, decades even  after the memory of any SBC has fadded( which is usually about 2 hours from the track on a really good day!. ) Nowif you were at heart a Chevy guy that would be different but you arent. You will alway wonder what the 300 would have been like no matter how fast the Chevy goes. As Buddy Hacket used to say in the TV ad. "You dont have to live with pain. "
The 300 can be built sereral ways. Some real inexpensive to the exotic with every imaginable conception in between. Sell the Algon to "someone you dont like" If I was in your shoes I would be looking for a 300 Weber set up although a 4 bbl will give a good account of itself too. Somewhere I have a picture of Thumper.  I will find it. I did all the head work for it when Harry Wilson owned it and worked on  another 300 Ford altered doing the whole engine and set up. Both cars were very successful and popular with the spectators as well. 
Don
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Foot Feed on July 23, 2013, 08:27:17 AM
Don, my 300 is a 1987 model. I've played with 300's since my first one in '81.

The valve covers and Algon Injection are likely older than I am. I'm thinking the Algon is a '59 model.

The Cherry Burrell pump is beyond a doubt older than I am.

Taking parts older than I am, and giving them life again, means something to me.
Actually, it means alot to me.

I'm taking stuff I saw run as a kid, drooled over in magazines and in the pits, and getting my own chance to do something with it as an adult.

The wife says I get more sentimental with each day I age. Guess there's worse things to be......

I appreciate your comments,

Ken
Title: Re: It's official, I'm going sbc...............
Post by: Dolmetsch on July 23, 2013, 06:38:50 PM
Sentimental is fine. I guess you have thought it thru.
I am reaching the point now where I am older then all my parts. That too eventually comes.
Don