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Title: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on February 04, 2013, 12:32:40 AM
Hi everyone! My name is Tommy Stein. I`m kind of new to this computer forum stuff, it may take me awhile to get the hang of it. I got hooked on drag raceing in the late sixtes, going to Lions, Irwindale, and OCIR most every weekend. I lusted over the AA/FD`s and finally bought one last year. It`s a Mark Williams with a 210 inch wheelbase. I think it`s a 1971 vintage.It has the small canard wings by the engine and those 'billboards' for the middle body tin. It was last raced in 2011 with a blown BBC. I bought it less engine and putting a SBC in it, but have a 1957 392 on the engine stand! Baby steps you know! Owning a dragster is new for me, it`s going to take some time, I`ve got alot of questions! This is going to be a great site ! TOMMY
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: GlennLever on February 04, 2013, 05:39:49 AM
Welcome. I'm new myself, but learning, Ask your questions and we will all learn with you. Nice introduction.
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Post by: wideopen231 on February 04, 2013, 05:46:22 AM
Tommy,

 Its just bench racing with a key board. Come on in and lets talk racecars.
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Post by: rd martin on February 04, 2013, 07:18:23 PM
thanks guys for starting this site! my first time posting here, im one of the chassis research guys , building a 96 in w.b. injected sbc.  i have been enjoying reading about glenns car for awhile now. looking forward to reading what everybodys doing. im finally getting back to mine. thanks rich
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on February 05, 2013, 08:59:12 PM
Thanks everyone. I`m trying to mock-up the SBC in it. I got a dummy block, put the mid-plate on, bolted the shorty glide on and set her in. Seamed to like it where its at. Was worried about crankshaft to pinion alignment. I used the BBC mid-plate that had been used with the car. There was no side to side or  up and down movement after setting it in,I think I`m close. Made up front aluminum front plate mounts, bolted to chromoly tube mounts and those clamped to the frame rails. This might seem like dragster 101 to you veteran guys out therebut I want to do this right AND SAFE.
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Post by: denverflatheader on February 06, 2013, 06:46:50 AM
Tommy - you'll be astonished how many times you have to put the engine/trans in and take it out again.  After a few months, you could do it easily with the lights off.  I had picked up a bare unfinished chassis in 2009.  Greg, the local nhra sfi chassis cert guy come by to check it out.  If it wouldn't certify, it was just going to be a wall hanger.  He looked at it and guessed it to be early '80s vintage.  There was a 1/2 inch u-joint steering coupler tacked in.  He pulled the dust cover back and read the serial number.  I think the number ended in a -80.  Greg said there you go "1980."  We all try to know as much history about our car (if we didn't build it new) plus it fun to know when you talk about it.  My first dragster's home track was Lions, "Flathead Obsession" I'm the second owner.  Did you ever see it run at the Beach?

rd -  96" wb.......  that'll be exciting launch. 
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on February 07, 2013, 02:22:52 AM
Thanks denverflatheader. I was just a young teen back in the late sixtys,don`t remember seeing your car exsactly, but I sure may have. There was always a sea of diggers there. I grew up in Granada Hills and Don Prudhomme and Paula Murphy lived close by. Sometimes on a Friday evening they would test fire their fueler and it would just thunder the valley! Well now that I`ve got the motor set, The next task I`m working on is the throttle linkage. I have the small Moon dragster pedal,a Holley 650 carb, and nothing inbetween. Should I try a cable hook-up or a direct metal rod set-up? I may have to turn the carb around to get a straight push. Pros n cons?
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Post by: hotrod316 on February 07, 2013, 05:47:51 AM
ts39256, you running a driveshaft or a coupler?
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Post by: denverflatheader on February 07, 2013, 07:02:54 AM
Good story on Granada Hills.  I'm using a metal rod.  I like the looks better than a cable.  There's options to turning your carb around, I'll take a picture of one option and send it to you at lunchtime. 
 
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: denverflatheader on February 07, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
Here's two pictures, self explanatory.  Bob (friend in Denver) built this on his car as his throttle pedal and fi linkage was on opposite sides.  His use of 1/4 inch rod and a few connectors is simple setup.   
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: denverflatheader on February 07, 2013, 12:32:48 PM
Just picture your carb replacing jack stand.....
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Post by: bud on February 07, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
Hi Tommy I'm new here myself. I ran at Lions in the late 50t and early 60t till I got my Draft notice.
 And Drag racing was put on hold for 4 years of playing in the Air Force. oh and you talking about making
noise Tom Mcquin lived just behind the A&W off of Bellflower BLVD and would fire up the Mcquinn and Adams car getting
Ready For Lions Good Times. I drove the Latham Flying "A" altered for George Latham on Santa Fe Blvd L.B.
and I drove for US Speed and Sports FED Back in those days.

 Thanks For the memories
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Post by: ts39256 on February 07, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
hotrod 316, I`m useing a mark williams'greek' coupler, don`t know the spline count offhand. Hey guys, when did the use of the 'greek coupler 'come into standard practice? Did it have something to do with one of my heroes Chris Karamesines? Well thats all 'greek' to me. LOL
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Post by: ts39256 on February 07, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
denverflatheader, Excellent! The pictures are a great help. Thanks for posting! I don`t have knack of posting photos yet, heck I just got my first cell phone 4 years ago LOL. I`ll have to have someone take some pics of my rail, but don`t hold your breath,may take awhile.
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on February 07, 2013, 03:44:04 PM
Bud, thanks for posting. Wow, both an altered and rail pilot. Maybe some day I`ll live the dream, but at least i`ve finally have a dragster.
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: bud on February 07, 2013, 04:03:37 PM
Ts39256 sounds like your going to have a lot fun.
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Post by: afaulk on February 15, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
Welcome from Alabama, I miss all the variety of things to do in Calif. Don't miss the traffic though (and a few other things). Looks like everyone here is a newbie like us!
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on April 21, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
finally got some new pictures, thanks to my good friend jared.  This has been a dream of mine for over 45 years.  I was going to join the procrastionaters club but i havent got around to it yet. 
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Post by: GlennLever on April 21, 2013, 05:14:54 PM
Very nice, I see the chassis is already certified. Did you build it?
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Post by: masracingtd1167 on April 22, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
Tom and RD welcome aboard .It dosn't matter if your car is long or short it's still a FED ! Keep the pictures coming This was one of my very first race cars around 1969
Title: Re: new guy intro with old fed
Post by: ts39256 on April 23, 2013, 12:51:30 AM
I was told that my rail was built by Mark Williams. It has a tag that reads 18 SEMA. The previous owner said the chassis tag system changed around 1975? He had bought the dragster from hotrod Fullers` dad. He updated the cage and had new tin bent. The 'billboards' were the originals on it. That, the side wings, and the 210 wheelbase make me think 1971, the last full season for front engine top fuel. Maybe just wishful thinking. The other tag is a NHRA sportsman tag, but I`m having a hard time reading (deciphering) it. What do I know ?  ???  LOL I`m just a newbie :D