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Title: turbo in fed
Post by: noslin on October 22, 2016, 09:54:52 PM

were there any nostalgia teams that tried to run a turbo back in the day?   if yes, would it be legal now days in say NE1 or 7.0 pro?

i have everything from my old car that was turbo, wastegates, bov, tb, turbo, pump, filters,  etc.  was just thinking if i could use it and be legal.

ty
dean

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: noslin on October 22, 2016, 09:59:17 PM

found this pic via the 'bullet'    dont know when it was takin/period etc.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae338/hashbrown_75/16274.jpg) (http://s985.photobucket.com/user/hashbrown_75/media/16274.jpg.html)

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: coupemerc on October 23, 2016, 04:57:40 AM

Looking at an older Heritage series rulebook...My understanding is that turbos are allowed in the NE1 (7.60) class. 7.0 Pro used to be reserved for blown alcohol or injected nitro but that may have changed.

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: Roger on October 23, 2016, 07:32:26 AM

I think the picture is of Gene Adams car driven by Don Enriquez.

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: Ray Hadford on October 23, 2016, 03:20:06 PM

You nailed the car....     Don said that motor was still at Hilborn, a few years ago. They were way ahead of their time.

Don also said it sounded like an old Buick with a hole in the muffler.    :)   

You could call him and get more details. I am not sure of the fuel.  He still works at Hilborn.  Also called Fuel Injection Engineering. 

He is racing a nostalgia JR fuel car at Bakersfield this weekend. 

Ray H.

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: dreracecar on October 23, 2016, 10:08:27 PM

Turbos are a gray area in 7.0
 First rules state No collector style exhaust and the second being that no electronic fuel injection permitted
Modern turbocharged systems rely on electronics to get them right and some have tried to get them to work with the manual injection, the lack of information and cars should be a clue. Adams (the man who had the ability to get it to work) gave up soon after and I believe for the time, Turbo lag was the issue. Montgomery and the Mallicot Bros had some minor success in the gasser classes but speeds were a lot slower back then and it was constant devlopment (years) to get it to work.

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: noslin on October 25, 2016, 06:50:17 PM

stop by my buddies shop today to bs.  him and Gene have become good freinds over the last few years. Gene helps him with is nitro vw fed.   anyways i showed him the pic above and he told me a little about it.  as mentioned the motor is still at Hilborn.  i seen writing on the pictures Steve had, the one above and this one below.  made 1200 hp on 28lbs.     concerning the burnout, from way it sounded they had crappy burnouts. as mentioned previously no way to build boost on the burnout for them.  so, in this picture he said the brake was held and clutch slipped till it built up enough boost or some boost and then let er rip.  thats why a xxxxx shot.

here is pic of it on the dyno. 
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s375/Dean_Nilson/20161025_171350_zpszkkw3rih.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/Dean_Nilson/media/20161025_171350_zpszkkw3rih.jpg.html)

Title: Re: turbo in fed
Post by: slingshot383 on November 02, 2016, 05:12:53 PM

With a Glide and a tranny brake, it would work, problem is controlling the boost and matching the fuel requirements.