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Drag Racing Discussions => Front Engine Dragsters => Topic started by: Tim Jones on April 29, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
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We got the body for my Comp coupe paint now just have to get the lettering guy out here
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OK I'll try once more to post the pic
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Love the color!
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Thanks Glenn My brother is stopping by tomorrow to help me put the body back on the chassis, then I can start bugging my lettering guy, I'll shoot some pics with the body on it tomorrow, I think i got this picture resizeing stuff figured out, Tim Jones
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A couple pics with the chassis
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Tim - front to back.... has excellent vintage look, like it alot! DF
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Tim I have a question . How do you get in or out ?
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I stand on the tire to go through the roof,I step over on to the frame rails in front of the cage before dropping down where I belong, though because I'm not as limber as I used to be I have a step stool to get on the tire, It sucks to get old and beat up, When I was doing the glass work on the body ,I beefed up the drivers side roof area so i didn't break anything getting in and out,,,, Tim Jones
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Tim - front to back.... has excellent vintage look, like it alot! DF
Thanks Alan the look I wanted when I started building this thing, thats also why I've handmade darn near every piece of hardware on this, from the steering wheel to the motor tab brackets,,, I just finished the last bit of welding on the blower intake , and have the crank hub just about done, the blower stuff is for another flathead I'm going to put together for this,,,, Tim Jones
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8) Sweet, cool color choice!
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My lettering guy is just about done, Just has a side chassis panel to finish, but anyway here's some pics , Tim Jones
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My lettering guy is just about done, Just has a side chassis panel to finish, but anyway here's some pics , Tim Jones
Nice plug for Roo Man with the Vintage Racing Supply.
Looking very nice.
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My lettering guy is just about done, Just has a side chassis panel to finish, but anyway here's some pics , Tim Jones
Nice plug for Roo Man with the Vintage Racing Supply.
Looking very nice.
Us old fuel car guys have to stick together ;D Thanks Glenn
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I forgot to add Rooman is a dealer for Strange eng, I got my third member parts from him, plus it was fun to BS about the days when working on fuel cars was alot more layed back than these days, Tim Jones
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Very cool looking car. That's one of those cars I'd love to see it in person some day..
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Very cool looking car. That's one of those cars I'd love to see it in person some day..
Thanks ,, Maybe we will run into each other when I get this thing finished,,,, Tim Jones
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My Buddy Brian Chollett, Got the last of the lettering done, Kinda nice to get it all put back together, now if the weather would clear up long enough to push it outside for a few pics, Tim Jones
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My Buddy Brian Chollett, Got the last of the lettering done, Kinda nice to get it all put back together, now if the weather would clear up long enough to push it outside for a few pics, Tim Jones
Looks like you will not have much luck with the weather today
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Here's a few outside shots I got after work tonite, Tim Jones
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that thing is bad to the bone
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Nice!
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The engine turning looks outstanding, as does the rest of the car. Nice work!
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Thanks it's been a fun build, can't wait to finish it, Tim Jones
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The engine turning looks outstanding, as does the rest of the car. Nice work!
Hey I looked at your info I grew up in Nebr, did alot of hunting in the sand hills burwell, bassett, Oneil , pretty much all over the state,,,still do when I have time, Tim Jones
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Got the body pins done finally, put the strange eng alum third member in the car, got the final measurements for the drive shaft so we can start making it,,,, Tim Jones
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Looking Good Tim!
Whats your chassis rated for? Is it mild steel or Moly? When did you decide to add the Coupe Body?
Exuse me for all the questions, I haven't been on the HAMB for along time and just found this sight.
Thanks, Gary
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Thanks Gary the chassis is Mild steel, Rated for what ever nostaliga meet will let it run, tho it will pass tech at most tracks ,buildt it just to have some fun again not worried about running every weekend, started out after not running a car of my own for 30 years just wanting to do an old 50' 60's type car but added the better cage and so on as I went, still have a couple bars by my legs I going to add, My kids want this thing built like a tank :) There mom told them about me crashing one of the old cars, So I guess they worry about the old man, changed to the comp coupe deal last fall always liked the look of them,, Don't have alot of spare money to throw at this thing like the old days, but that's OK if I can make it myself I don't buy it, alot more fun to do anyway,,,,,Tim Jones
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Hit kind of a snag, the other day I was running the motor for my brother, at first I thought it got a headgasket, but after pulling the head I found that one of the sleeves in this motor had cracked right near the top, SO because I'll have to fix the block anyway, I'm going to prep both blocks I have for the blower set up, I mocked up what I have While the engine is in the car to run the fuel lines and what not, Being I'm at a stand still money wise, I started working on my 47 ford cab that I'm going to swap on my ramp truck,, Tim Jones
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If only I had your energy!
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If only I had your energy!
HA HA ,, I have more energy than money, It helps that I live by myself in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of dogs,,,, My dad always told me and my brother , If you want some get off your butt and make it happen nobodys gonna do it for ya,, Probally why I would rather build it than buy it,,, Tim Jones
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Tim, chassis and body coming along nicely. Be easy to load (drive up) and unload with a ramp truck. A long long time ago, we had a drag strip south of Denver near Castlerock called CDR, your car name reminded me of it. DF
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Tim, chassis and body coming along nicely. Be easy to load (drive up) and unload with a ramp truck. A long long time ago, we had a drag strip south of Denver near Castlerock called CDR, your car name reminded me of it. DF
Thanks Alan ,, Funny you call it CDR that's what the guys at work call my place when they'er not callin it the Cripple Dog Ranch,, Tim Jones
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Got the cab off the ramp truck and slid the 47 cab up on the frame, Not bad for a guy who turns 56 this week, ,,Lots of prying and punishing my back, But it's gonna look cool, Here's a few pics from today,, Tim Jones
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Well done Tim, looks very cool.
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That has always been a project I wanted to do, put an old body on a new frame and drive train.
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Cool I like 8)
Randy!
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Thanks guys, I figured swaping the cab and useing the wireing loom and hardware would be the easier way to have a cool old style ramp truck ,that can still roll down the interstate at 70 mph or so,, To make mounting the brake booster, slave cylinder, foot feed and a few other items I cut the fire wall out of the 89 and I'm gonna scab onto the 47 fire wall sounds like alot of work but it will make things easier in the end ( I hope),, Tim Jones
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Here's how the cab swap is going ,Cab mounted , firewall redone, brakes, clutch slave and foot feet and steering mounted , most of the wireing sorted out, radiator lowered and remounted, Batterys moved to behind cab,extended ramps to center the car better,Truck starts and runs, Storage box/sleeper behind cab done,can enter sleeper through cab, working on mounting seats,
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Tim, your progress sure is steady. What you planning for fuel tank? DF
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I mounted a 75 gallon fuel tank from one of our old trucks from work on the back, Plus still has the stock tanks, Tim Jones
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Good fit. I have a old friend lives about 130 miles away on acreage with lots of cars/truck parts from years and years. I check with him first if I need some obscure part, sometimes he got just what I need (like a fuel tank) sometimes not, plus gotta catch up on whats going on. Topics in rural farm community so much different than big city topics. Handy to incorporate the crane (hidden too), probably more guys are gonna ask to borrow than you using it : ) Alan
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Yeah Alan, I'm a scrounger from way back, To tell you the truth I hope I never need to use the engine hoist at the track, but if anyone ever needed to use it all I have to do is pull along side them, Beats breaking your back lifting a motor out of the frame rails ;D,,,, Tim Jones
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Well since I didn't hit the lottery the car isn't done this summer, We pulled the motor out after finding a cracked sleeve and while it was out my friend beth and I decided to add some side braces by the trans, We'll also have to change the steering being with the side braces we can't take the trans out the side anymore, here's a few pics of what we have in mind,, Tim Jones
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I got the floor put in the truck a few weeks ago ,, also cut some lexan for the front windows to keep some of the rain out til I get glass for it,,
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Getting back to the race car, Being I'm useing a ford 3 speed behind my flathead, (Don't laugh I have to try it) and they don't make a scattershield for it, We decided to make our own , here's some pics of building it, We rolled a 6 inch wide piece of 1/4 inch plate steel to start, Our roller at work is a hand roller ,Talk about getting a work out,, I'll post the other pics of building it later,, And BTW I know it won't pass nhra specs but I like my feet and felt the need to do something,,, also this is just a nostaliga car buildt just to go out and have a good time with,,,Tim Jones
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After a test fit we cut out slots to slide the can onto the block alitte more, then made a removeable two piece rear cover to fit around the trans and shifter setup,,made the inside tabs to bolt the cover to the main part of the can,,, Then Beth drilled and tapped the cover plate
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After building the rear cover ,I had to make the inside mounts, the way an early flathead is , the back of the block is part of the bellhousing, So we needed to make inside mounts for the can,to overlap the trans and block seam,, I started with 2 inch tubes , then welded some plate pieces to attach the mounts to the inside of the scattershield,,, Tim Jones
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Next We cut out for the can to slide over the throwout rod and a cover plate the the throwout fork and clutch pedel, also had to machine an extenstion for the throwout rod to stick out of the can, That's all for tonite I'll post more tomorrow after work,, Tim Jones
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Tim, hats off to you, really nice fabrication skills. It looks very solid.
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Tim, hats off to you, really nice fabrication skills. It looks very solid.
Thanks we weighed it the other day, weighed 50 Lbs, Like i said it isn't a SFI spec can , but it's better than risking having a chunk of iron hit my feet or who ever might be driveing, OR anyone near the car,, Once while over at a friend if mines house he showed me some photos of when some clutch parts off his car went into the stands and someone lost their life,, said he quit racing for years, of those photos he showed me was one of him sitting by himself on the gaurdrail after hearing what happened ,A man who's life had been destroyed in a matter of seconds, the most powerful pic I had ever seen in drag racing,,,Tim Jones
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Very compelling.
Safety first!
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Yeah Glenn safety first ,we also wrap the trans with a blanket,,,, Here's where we are at now, got the starter pocket done, now just have to cover some of the places we cut out for clearance,,,, Tim Jones
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Tim nice to see that you are taking your safety so serious . I truly love the old vintage dragsters and you are doing it right !
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Tim nice to see that you are taking your safety so serious . I truly love the old vintage dragsters and you are doing it right !
Thanks Bill ,, trying to keep the old time look and be safe also
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Hi, What color (name or code) and paint mfg did you use?
thanks
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Hi, What color (name or code) and paint mfg did you use?
thanks
It's a Nason dupont color, Stock GM color,, code 418P Atomic Orange,, Tim Jones
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Pounded out a couple pieces to cover some slots cut for clearance
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Cut out and welded the pieces on the can,,,,, All was going good til the T-Rex got ahold of my arm,,,, Tim Jones
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Where did t-rex come from?
I just got a ruse bud and have found many uses for it.
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Where did t-rex come from?
I just got a ruse bud and have found many uses for it.
It was from the Dino display that's been at the Omaha Zoo where I work, They were dismanteling all of them up at the shop, It was a display of 14 life size robotic dinos, Pretty cool deal our year lease just ended, I've been a fossil hunter since I was a kid and my Grand kids are all dino nuts , so it was fun while it was here,, BTW a Rosebud is almost a must have tool for tweaking parts,, Tim Jones
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When I say I'm a fossil collector,that's kind of an understatement, When I do something,, like my racing, I normally get carried away,,,,, Here's some of my fossils I've found ,the best find was a mostly complete Four tusker mastodon ( A 10 million year old type of Elephant) That's the reconstruted skull behind me in the pic,, Tim Jones
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When I say I'm a fossil collector,that's kind of an understatement, When I do something,, like my racing, I normally get carried away,,,,, Here's some of my fossils I've found ,the best find was a mostly complete Four tusker mastodon ( A 10 million year old type of Elephant) That's the reconstruted skull behind me in the pic,, Tim Jones
I'm speechless less.
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Just relized I haven't posted on here for awhile , We had to change alot with the scattershield, I'll update after work tonight,, Tim Jones
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Good Deal!
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When we built the scattershield for the flathead, we ended up haveing to change just about everything in the trans area, I'll start with the steering, had to move it back about five inchs and get rid of all the knuckles and go back to the straight shaft , but We also added some X braces on each side of the trans, So we made a swing out mount for the box so we could remove the trans still,, here's some pics of that, Keep in mind I build most of this by hand without alot of nice tools to work with, So if it looks rough IT IS,, Tim Jones More updates tomorrow SORRY Pics too big I'll miss with them tomorrow night
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When we built the scattershield for the flathead, we ended up haveing to change just about everything in the trans area, I'll start with the steering, had to move it back about five inchs and get rid of all the knuckles and go back to the straight shaft , but We also added some X braces on each side of the trans, So we made a swing out mount for the box so we could remove the trans still,, here's some pics of that, Keep in mind I build most of this by hand without alot of nice tools to work with, So if it looks rough IT IS,, Tim Jones More updates tomorrow SORRY Pics too big I'll miss with them tomorrow night
Sorry about the reduction in the allowed picture size but cost of space storage has driven the change to restrict size to 800 X 600 / 150K
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When we built the scattershield for the flathead, we ended up haveing to change just about everything in the trans area, I'll start with the steering, had to move it back about five inchs and get rid of all the knuckles and go back to the straight shaft , but We also added some X braces on each side of the trans, So we made a swing out mount for the box so we could remove the trans still,, here's some pics of that, Keep in mind I build most of this by hand without alot of nice tools to work with, So if it looks rough IT IS,, Tim Jones More updates tomorrow SORRY Pics too big I'll miss with them tomorrow night
Sorry about the reduction in the allowed picture size but cost of space storage has driven the change to restrict size to 800 X 600 / 150K
No Worries Glenn ,, When I came in from working on the car it was too late to resize the pics, I forgot what size they had to be for this site, Here's some Tim Jones
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Hi Tim – saw your other post on your rear gears. Yes, I agree 3.70s ideal with your setup to start (I used 3.63s, going to try something new this year 3.40s). A clubmember running a ford banjo rear tried 4.44, 4.10 and 3.78 with spool and c4. 3.78 combo for him works well. Enjoyed seeing your pictures. You know the old rule about tools, more important knowing how to use them properly. Hope all else going smoothly at CDR : ) Alan
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Hi Tim – saw your other post on your rear gears. Yes, I agree 3.70s ideal with your setup to start (I used 3.63s, going to try something new this year 3.40s). A clubmember running a ford banjo rear tried 4.44, 4.10 and 3.78 with spool and c4. 3.78 combo for him works well. Enjoyed seeing your pictures. You know the old rule about tools, more important knowing how to use them properly. Hope all else going smoothly at CDR : ) Alan
All's well out here , Still plugging away at this thing, Glad winter finally left,, Back to the updates we remounted the clutch pedel to pivit off a cross member and moved the gas pedal back also, Tim Jones
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Next we stripped this thing done so I could weld up all the changes, Ended up throwing my back out rolling this pig over, Should have asked beth for help, O Well live and learn, Tim Jones
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72 yesterday 70 through the weekend, 79 on Monday, SNOW Tuesday here.
Great progress.
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Tim - excellent progress, "back" pain, ouch! Alan
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Thanks Guys,, Here it is all painted and ready to put back together, AGAIN, Plus a pic of what I started with a few years ago, Added alittle bit since then,, Tim Jones
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As I have said before, LOOKING GOOD.
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72 yesterday 70 through the weekend, 79 on Monday, SNOW Tuesday here.
Great progress.
Please no four letter words
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Ranks right up there with Rain.
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Nice Going Glenn ,, Now we have Snow in the forcast for tonight,,,,, Tim Jones
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Nice Going Glenn ,, Now we have Snow in the forcast for tonight,,,,, Tim Jones
I had to spread the misery around as we do also.
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Glenn – woke up to bleep (rain) here and 34 degrees, suppose to change to bleep (snow) by noon. Best part, the bleep "is heading your way" and now I know stopping by Tim’s to share… Maybe if the jet stream changes patterns, it’ll visit masracingtd1167 too and drop off some goodies : ) Alan
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Thank's Alan!!
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Glenn – woke up to bleep (rain) here and 34 degrees, suppose to change to bleep (snow) by noon. Best part, the bleep "is heading your way" and now I know stopping by Tim’s to share… Maybe if the jet stream changes patterns, it’ll visit masracingtd1167 too and drop off some goodies : ) Alan
Not sure which of you guys to Thank, But Some at The Cripple Dog Ranch ( Beth and The Dogs) don't mind another snow day,, Me I'm ready for summer,, Tim Jones
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Haven't posted for awhile ,, still pluging away, Got the ramptruck running and loaded the car for some pics, Truck is an 1989 ford , 7.3 deisel 5 speed, with a 1947 ford cab on it, Tim Jones
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Now that's a cool site
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Now that's a cool site
Thanks It will be cooler when it rolls by at 70 MPH ,, Or more ;D ;D ;D Tim Jones
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Tim - yes, for some, those kind of ideas makes you smile, I’m one of those… “saving” classic ford truck, updating with newer heavy duty ford running gear, hauling vintage racer ford powered… ummm hmmm… keep it up, that’s right and we’ll start thinking… “Tim’s gotta ford penchant” : ) Alan
p.s. maybe when you’re ready you might attend our annual flathead-inline nationals race at Bandimere, it happened just a few weeks ago.
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Tim - yes, for some, those kind of ideas makes you smile, I’m one of those… “saving” classic ford truck, updating with newer heavy duty ford running gear, hauling vintage racer ford powered… ummm hmmm… keep it up, that’s right and we’ll start thinking… “Tim’s gotta ford penchant” : ) Alan
p.s. maybe when you’re ready you might attend our annual flathead-inline nationals race at Bandimere, it happened just a few weeks ago.
Yeah Alan it's kind of an all ford deal, I still have a KB to keep things even tho, ,, BTW We do plan on coming out and running that race when the car is running,, Tim Jones
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KB for fun, funny car fun? Like your plan to attend! I ran the ford 300 six at our nationals race, it’s first outing since putting it together. Here’s picture of 1st qualifying run making maiden voyage down quarter. The Bandimere family gave each racer a gift for participating in the Flathead Inline Nationals Race, this year was framed picture. We had 3 qualifying rounds Saturday with eliminations on Sunday (knocked myself out 2nd round Sunday). Spud built the magneto, he used rare earth stuff : )
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Very Clean looking car Alan, Back in the late 80's I was out there working on somones car ,maybe testing? when the inline /flathead race was going on looked like a fun deal, so it's always been on the list for this car,, PS the KB is for the funny car when I hit the lottery ;D ;D ;D,, Tim Jones
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Thank you, vintage easier to make clean. Quite a few of the guys from back in the 80’s no longer race. They still have garages full of neat stuff, however, none have a funny car project… so you got them all beat : ) We added food to the race, now have a Saturday bbq at the track. The track has a special area for us that weekend, good company, good food, racing and car show, Yes, “fun deal.” We all have our “list” mine continually grows detours.
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Thank you, vintage easier to make clean. Quite a few of the guys from back in the 80’s no longer race. They still have garages full of neat stuff, however, none have a funny car project… so you got them all beat : ) We added food to the race, now have a Saturday bbq at the track. The track has a special area for us that weekend, good company, good food, racing and car show, Yes, “fun deal.” We all have our “list” mine continually grows detours.
BBQ and race cars Count us in!!!,, I know what you mean about the detours,, Tim Jones