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Spud Miller's Cave / lookin for help, eh

« on: September 29, 2018, 01:56:11 PM »

Hello everyone, its been a long while, but I actually worked on the car again. Now for the questions, first off, the engine is a 392 Hemi, in a street driven car, with a automatic. I installed a Hilborn 4 port, with a bunch of cobbled parts. The pump is a Enderle 80A .1 that's remote mounted, I have 8 #14A nozzles,The barrel valve is from a flying toilet system with a #54 spool, a Kinsler jet holder with a 100 pill and a light spring (0.014"), a secondary poppet with a heavier spring (.042',and a .187" and a .042 shim) and a high speed poppet with a heavy spring ( .042" spring and 4 of  .042" shims).
 Now, what's the opinions on what I need to basically drive the car at shows and the odd trip around the block. I would like to have a idea as to what spring and shim combos I would need in the poppets and the main pill and springs to make this work.
 Thanks guys for the much appreciated help,
   Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / mechanical injection question

« on: March 24, 2018, 03:26:53 PM »

Hi Spud, its been a while, but I have another question regarding injection. I am finishing a project, 388 stroker SBC.Anyways, I have a Enderle 80A-1 pump for the bug catcher on top of a converted GMC 6-71. I plan on running alcohol. I also have another Enderle 80A-1 to put onto another project with a 6-71 and a Hilborn 4 port on gas. Now the question, I have two 3-way shut offs, one with -8 fittings and the other with -6 fittings. I also have a return loop kit that has -6 lines on it. Would the -6 line ( from the pump to the barrel valve)  be sufficient to supply the barrel valve with enough fuel in the blown alcohol setup on the 388 Chevy? Or would it be better suited on the other project with the hilborn on gas?
 Thanks Spud, hope you can help me out, again
 Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / 4 port questions

« on: March 31, 2017, 03:01:11 PM »

Hi Spud,
 I hate to be such a pain in the butt, but I am going to try this again. First off, the 4 port is going onto a 33 Willys gasser show car, running on gas. The motor is a .060 over 392 Hemi, with a hydraulic blower cam & a (5% over driven) 6-71 blower. I want to go with a more period correct setup on top of the blower, so I purchased a used short Hilborn 4 port. The spool in the barrel valve is a old #25. I also bought a bunch of parts from a toilet style system, that gave me 8, #14A 90' nozzles, a Enderle 80A.1 pump, a small barrel valve with a #54 spool and a bunch of bypass and pill holders. Now the questions, first off I took both spools out of their barrel valves and measured them. They are both the same length and diameter, so I put the #54 spool into the hilborn barrel valve. I also plan on drilling and tapping 4 additional holes in the Hilborn barrel valve to feed all 8 (14A) nozzles that I put into the 4 port. I plan on remote driving the pump to feed the 4 port.
 I know that mechanical injection doesn't work on the street, but this is more of a trailered show car than a driven street car, Will this setup work, and if so, any idea on where to start with the pill, springs, shims etc.?
 I know I'm a pain, but I am determined to get this project to work, with out resorting to a EFI system.
 Thanks again for your thoughts and knowledge,
  Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / More questions

« on: March 14, 2017, 07:54:46 AM »

Hi again Spud,
Well I m still trying to gather enough parts to make this old Hilborn 4 port work on my mild, blown, street Hemi on gas (392, .060 over, about 8% overdriven, hydraulic cam) . I just bought a Ron's toilet system, without the throttle bodies. It came with 4 right and 4 left,90' 14A nozzles, a small barrel valve with a #54 spool, a couple of bypass holders, a quick jet holder and a Enderle 80A.1 pump (FIE860) and drive. I am wondering if this could be used in my situation? I was thinking of using 8 nozzles, and feed them from the back of the injector thru a distribution block. I could then use the single in and single out barrel valve from the Ron's setup. The setup also came with a box of springs, shims, pills and other small parts (30,35,40,50,60,65,70,71 Pills (hilborn)
.024,.028, .033, .044 springs
.188, .186, .187. .186, .033, .032, .031 shims
.015 spring X2.)
Sorry to be such a pain in the ass, but I'm new to this and am trying to finish this on a blue collar budget.
 Thank you again,
  Roger

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Front Engine Dragsters / wanting to know,

« on: December 01, 2016, 01:40:26 PM »

 Hi Glen, what going on with Spud Miller? He hasn't posted anything in quite a while, hope he's allright.
  Just wondering Glen,
   thanks Glen,
              Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / 4 port hilborn parts.

« on: November 13, 2016, 09:20:13 AM »

Hello again Spud,
 Well I received my 4 port Hilborn, so now I know what I have and what I will need. The Hilborn has a square barrel valve with a #25 spool in it, and that's about it. I will make some new lines out of stainless tubing, but I will need nozzles, and a few by-pass valves I guess.
 This is going onto my street car, a 33 Willys with a blown 392 Hemi, on gas. Its a mild motor, not a race motor. So you already told me I would need a -1 pump and #28 nozzles ( only 4 nozzles being used).
 Now for the questions, would the #25 spool in the barrel valve work in my situation? I also have a Enderle bug catcher with #52 nozzles in it now and I also have a set of #48 nozzles too. Would I be able to just buy some Enderle nozzle holders and use the nozzles I have? I also have a few Enderle pills.
 Thanks for the help again,
   Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / Hi Spud,pump requirements

« on: October 26, 2016, 09:02:10 AM »

 Hi, Just a few questions I'm hoping you can answer. I have a 392 Hemi( 0.060 over, mild blower cam ), with a 6-71 blower (5%over) and just acquired a hilborn 4 port.
 My questions are, what size of 90 degree nozzles would be appropriate for this setup on gas, what size of pump to feed this and
any idea what to start with for the primary and secondary bypass pills?
 The Hemi is in a 33 Willys gasser/street car, standard transmission
 Thanks in advance,
  Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / leak down test

« on: May 04, 2015, 08:48:32 AM »

  Hi Spud,
 I have a SBC with stack injection. The injection has been to Hilborn, along with the pump for a going over.
I have it on the car now, exactly as it was sent to me from Hilborn. Last fall I had it running(?) for a few moments. This year it ran for a minute or two, but wont idle. Its on alcohol, and the block has water in it.
 Well today I hooked a leak down tester to the inlet of the barrel valve, made sure the throttle was closed, and set the tester to 100 psi. Well the other gauge went down to about 20 psi. To me that's about 80% leakage, and I was told it should be about 15-16% leakage to get started.
 What did I do wrong, or miss?
 Thanks in advance,
                      Roger 
 I guess I should have searched a bit more before I wrote this. I didn't plug the first or secondary by-pass off.
I will do that tomorrow, and see what happens.

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Spud Miller's Cave / Duh,

« on: January 25, 2015, 08:30:24 AM »

Hi, I have a small problem. I was talking to someone about a Vertex Magneto base with a tach drive, to put under my Don Zigg, Vertex mag. Well now I cant find my my communications with the person that has a used base for sale, that I was interested in.
  Hopefully I posted this in the proper area,
             Roger
 

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Spud Miller's Cave / Hilborn 4 Door

« on: December 23, 2014, 11:45:33 AM »

 Hi, If memory serves me correct, Hilborn made, or still makes a couple of 4 port injectors. What was the reason for the different ones and why was one tall and the other short? Would a 3" work on a 392 Hemi with a 5% under driven,6-71?
  Thanks Spud

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Wanted to buy / Just wondering

« on: December 13, 2014, 12:31:36 PM »

 Hi all, just wondering if anyone has or knows of a 4 port Hilborn for sale? I might be interested in a Donovan Hemi, for the dragster, if there's anything out there with in reason, price wise
  Thanks,
    Roger
   rhracing@sympatico.ca

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Front Engine Dragsters / dragster weight

« on: September 28, 2014, 01:36:44 PM »

 Well I went to weight the dragster yesterday. Simple right, trailer it over to the weight scales at the corner truck stop, push the car up onto the scales and get the weight. Wrong, so I had to take the truck, trailer and car over the scales, Then go unload the car, and go over the scales again, Subtract the second weight from the first, gives the dragster weight. Anyway, my WORM dragster with a small block Chev, powerglide, ready to race minus me and 2 gallons of methanol, 1220 lbs. Lighter than I thought.
  Roger

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Spud Miller's Cave / Help with stack injection

« on: June 02, 2014, 08:15:24 AM »

 Hello again,
 Well I put the oil and plugs into the motor that was recommended to me on the forum, thanks. Now the problem is, if I squirt some gas down each stack, roll the motor over with the mag on, it'll fire. But I cant seem to get the Alcohol up to the pump or barrel valve. I've poured alcohol down the line from the pump back to the tank, and even poured some into the line from the pump to the barrel valve, still nothing. Many years ago I had a blown,injected on alcohol small block Chev, and I seem to remember that the motor fire on gas and almost right away the alcohol was up to the valve and into the motor.
 Is there a special way to "prime" the pump on the motor? Oh and I just received the pump and the injection back from Hilborn, being flowed and rebuilt.
  Thanks again guys,
         Roger

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Front Engine Dragsters / a few questions

« on: May 27, 2014, 05:11:07 AM »

Hi I need some help here. I have a stack injected small block chev, on methanol.
Now I would like to know, what weight oil I should run and what plugs?
The plugs need to be gasket seat,3/4" reach nonresistor, for a mag.
 Thanks guys
     Roger

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Matt Shaff's Engine Shop / stupid question?

« on: May 27, 2014, 04:27:33 AM »

  Hi, just wanting to know what oil weight to use in my stack injected small chevy. Its on methanol. Also
what plugs are recomended for the same setup. I need 3/4"  reach,gasket seat plugs, for a magneto.
   Thanks in advance
       Roger