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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: Partnerships for racing operation
« on: February 26, 2023, 01:41:57 PM »
In the early going I had a car that a friend helped me on quite a bit. As a show of appreciation I put his name down as crew chief and put the name on the car along with mine.
All he did was help. Truck trailer, car, travel expense money invested anywhere was all mine.
When it came time to sell the car and move on he demanded some of the money from the sale.
Think long and hard about such things and get it down on paper for certain. He didn't get it btw.

Best advice is do it all yourself even if it takes longer.

Best partnership I had and even then it was real iffy is where I owned the car and the partner bought the truck and trailer.
He came out better financially than I did. chuckle.

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: Fed build design ?
« on: September 07, 2019, 12:50:34 PM »
Concerning the length.
I have seen more than one older city garage adapted to the car by building out a doghouse on the backside.
Dog house was just tall and wide enough for the front end to go through
First time I ever saw one was when REDs came about.
I knew the car. When I drove up to his place the garage looked waaay short.
Yup, I looked outside and then inside.
Remember the old bugs bunny cartoon with the Arabian tent. Same deal. Little tent outside, palace inside.

The fellow built the dog house because zoning and property taxes for a garage add on was an impossible barrier.
With the dog house he mentioned that zoning never sees it.
I looked out back and true, he had camouflaged it by making it look like a real dog house.
Different siding and shingles than the garage.
 Even painted a black hole on one end to look like an entrance.
You had to look twice to realize it was fake.

I have also seen 2 piece diggers. Even rear engine versions. Give that some thought.

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Opinion: I don't think the rear wing does anything for the rest of the design. Might be good for hanging the chute on though.  :)
Suggestion: Don't make that top cowl so tight to the engine you can't work on it.

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CHRISMAN had a rear end break loose on him and resulted in very serious groin injurys. build it to stringent SFI or better spec's and inspect all tubes/welds after each weekend racing in especially critical areas. be safe and have fun.
bob

Hi,
New guy here. Just tripped over the place. This thread got me to thinking about an old friend and Bob's post triggered it.
This is meant to be a teaching moment so bear with me.

In the early 70s as a pup I raced a Jr Fuel car. The real version with 97% nitro. There were a lot of them back then with circuits everywhere. A friend of mine managed to lose his life in a grisly way to a rear end and it was senseless. There was a line of thinking that "light is right". This is cool as long as it doesn't become unsafe.

This took place at Motion Raceway in Assumption IL. We were running with the TF class. Yup, weekly TF shows were the norm then and we could run with them and win also but that's another story.
My friend was making his pass as I was sitting on the roller starters waiting my turn. I heard the car leave, the rpm climb, he pedaled then silence, then more rpm, more silence, etc. It was obvious something was wrong and then I heard a crash. My crew guy who was watching down track dropped his head, turned and signaled me to call it a day. This is not good he said.

The rear end had broken loose from the mounts and had rotated in the car over and over. I leave the image to your mind as to what took place.
Let's put it this way, this was a unique event for all concerned and afterwards the teams were in the tower deciding whether to go on or not. They did, I didn't as I was just too bummed out. While we were in the tower we all could see this wide swath of blood going down the center of the track. The track owner quietly said to me he wasn't sure how he was going to clean that up. Oddly enough a few minutes later a pop up rain storm rolled through followed by intense sunlight and the problem was solved. Come to your own conclusions on that.
 Another friend that was the track go to guy and EMT was just a year back from Nam in country. He was the one that had to do the extraction and had that "look". He never went to a race track again.

End game: Remember I mentioned "light is right"? Let me add that "cheap is deep".
Well, what happened here is that the rear end was held in with not enough 3/8" bolts and the above go to guy found some of them later. Off the shelf stuff. When he lifted and got bite again the bolts gave up. That's all it took.

Now, the teaching moment and Roo will likely concur. We have pretty stiff rules for rear end mounting in place for this today but I don't think they mention the type of bolt used. You first thought is grade 8 right? Ok as far as it goes but not any old grade 8 will do. You need the NAS type bolts like the airplane guys use. These bolts come with different length shanks and short threads on the end. The rear end mounting must have a the shank portion engaging both the rear end and the mount. IF a threaded section of the bolt is in contact with the metal it will move and eventually give up. Those of you building your own cars will also want to make the holes a just fit, precision fit. A gnarly drill bit won't do. Also, no kidding, check the torque on these as part of your weekly maintenance program. Might even want to replace them on some kind of schedule. A double shear design is a good thing also.
 Roo likely has these bolts on hand or maybe something even better.
I don't need to lose any more friends to stupidity.
Thus ends today's life lesson.



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