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Title: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:01:06 PM
January 30, 2013, 02:24:17 PM

I looked at it and tried to decide what is the next task to address to get the Blower Install done.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2012_10_27/DSC_0310.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
February 04, 2013, 11:50:11 PM

It does not feel like we made much progress this weekend. Tom was over and so were both of my sons. Number one son stayed behind the camera so I have no pictures of him, but I did get a picture of the number two son.

We started like this
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Bag_0006_06.jpg)

and ended like this
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/So_Here_Is_Where_We_Are_Now_0231.jpg)

In between those two the blower bag is back from DJ so we the blower bag back on with the modifications made by DJ it fits now.
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Bag_0007_06.jpg)

Installed the rear restraint strap bracket.
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Rear_Bracket_0211.jpg)

Made a bracket to hold the fill can for the coolant system
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Bracket_0085.jpg)

it came out pretty nice
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Bracket_0195.jpg)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_02/Bracket_0244.jpg)

There is a complete update on my web site at this link
http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Week_2013_02_02.htm

and the complete build from the first tube cut to now can be seen here
http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Root.htm

along with some u-tube videos of it running down the track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDWtpdT46Ck
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:05:52 PM
February 21, 2013, 04:55:05 PM

I spent the day putting together the attached Race Car Safety Data Sheet.

This was suggested by a good friend to make inspectors on race day happy.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:07:21 PM
February 22, 2013, 09:12:34 AM

Well I have started looking for the rest of my belt guard.

I have a RCD upper belt guard.

I have been watching FeeBay for a lower belt guard.

A friend of mine told me to take a look over on Classic Funny Car Board, that there was a  guy selling Laser cut blower belt guards "Funny car chat   about 6 7 posts down (Feb. 12) "custom blower belt guard"   $55     "

I contacted him and am in the process of having one made up for me with the racing team name cut into it. I will let you know how it comes out. He is not a dealer, just a guy supporting his racing addiction on the side.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:08:22 PM
February 25, 2013, 02:44:54 PM

I got the bottom pulley and fuel pump belt drive assembled and lock-tighted and bolted onto the engine

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2012_11_10/DSC_0424.jpg)

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=246;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:11:31 PM
February 26, 2013, 05:18:51 PM

Bolted the intake on.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_02_24/Intake_Manifold_0334.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:13:01 PM
March 07, 2013, 04:56:46 PM

Steve and I got together and cut down the standoffs for the belt guard.

So this is what we started with Note that the top pulley is JUST inside the guard and the way the guard comes from RCD the bolt heads are sticking out over the pulley.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0493.JPG)

So we pulled it all apart, cut a 1/4 inch off the standoffs, and machined counter sinks into the starter bracket so that the heads are flush.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0501.JPG)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
March 10, 2013, 09:17:17 AM

I installed the blower (not to be removed again until at lest after the first fire up) using custom aluminum studs ( I have a 4 inch spacer between the intake and the blower)made by Roo Man (replaced the steel tread rods used for mock up).

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0486.JPG)

As I must make it look pretty as well as having if functional, each stud was measured once fully threaded (the reason each one had to be measured is the blind holes in the intake were all different lengths) into the BDS intake manifold, cut to get the stud to fully thread into the acorn nut, without the gasket.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0487.JPG)

Each stud was then numbered, they were all removed, the gaskets installed, and nuts torqued to 12 pounds

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0488.JPG)

One more task completed. It looks like the fuel system will be on its way home from FIE the end of next week.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
March 12, 2013, 05:49:54 PM

Bought some pulleys for tuning

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0470.JPG)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
March 16, 2013, 01:29:12 PM

Bob Way and I got together this morning and got a couple of things done. Got the parachute unpacked and hung from the ceiling in the basement, exercised the flapper in the fuel tank to try and free it up as the anodize has bound it up, and the big thing is we made a piston stop, and found top dead center on the crank (remember that I no longer have a harmonic balancer). We took are time on this and rechecked our findings many times. TDC is a degree and a half away from one of the ten degree makes on the degree wheel. Too bad it did not work out so that it was right on.

Next weekend should be a big weekend as the fuel system should be back from FIE and can be bolted on!

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=368;image)

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=370;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
March 21, 2013, 05:47:13 PM

Fuel system is back from Spud (FIE).
http://www.fuelinjectionent.com/

Lots to due this Saturday at the car nuts meeting starts around 9:00. I should be working on it most of the weekend off and on. If you want to stop by feel free (I would call first to make sure I’m not running for parts).

If you are planning on stopping on Saturday around 9:00 let me know so there is food and drink for all.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
March 24, 2013, 10:00:25 AM

I updated my web site on progress on the dragster today, here is the link
http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Week_2013_03_09.htm

The current pulley setup will not work
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0645.jpg)

What is the solution, see the web site.

Got a present from Spud today
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0698.jpg)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0699.jpg)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0701.jpg)

Put together a bracket for the remote fuel pump

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0708.jpg)

Now that I have the hat back and the new blower restrain installed a clearance problem showed up, and fixed it.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0711.jpg)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0715.jpg)

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:20:04 PM
March 28, 2013, 10:51:40 AM

Bolted the hat on, getting close, I think this Saturday we will try an fire it.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0720.JPG)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0724.JPG)

Made a small modification to the hat so that it is easier to bolt on.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0725.JPG)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0733.JPG)

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:21:05 PM
March 29, 2013, 11:07:54 AM

Line form the fill tank to the coolant system is installed.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_03_09/DSC_0802.JPG)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
March 31, 2013, 07:46:25 AM

No words necessary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6zRsObuerw&
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
April 08, 2013, 06:22:29 PM

Well this was not all done today, but within the last week,
The engine was run and ran well

A complete update can be seen at this link
http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Week_2013_04_13.htm

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0820.jpg)

We had a coolant leak on the right head.
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0831.jpg)

Took it apart
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0832.jpg)

Put it back together
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0855.jpg)

Made an improvement to the coolant system
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0898.jpg)

Put together a list of items that need to be completed to go to the track on the 27th
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_04_13/DSC_0899.JPG)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:24:32 PM
April 13, 2013, 02:51:27 PM

I moved the FED from  the garage to the trailer today. One step closer to the track.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:25:23 PM
April 16, 2013, 07:34:57 AM

Bought 110 gallons of fuel today.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:26:31 PM
April 21, 2013, 09:29:28 AM

THIS WEEK AT EMPIRE DRAGWAY
04-21-13 7 am The forecast for today is Sunny and 50.  Test & Tune and Swap Meet is on. Gate opens at 10 am, Time trials from noon-5pm. Admission prices : $14 Race, $13 Watch or Swap.

Too cold for me, I will go down and pass out fliers, and wait till next weekend to take the dragster out for the first time.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
April 27, 2013, 10:22:11 PM

Well I finally got down the track.

We were able to make three runs, the first one I had some tire shake and it broke the trans brake wire in two different places. I was unable to back up as I have a pro brake and to back up you have to put it in reverse and hold the trans-brake button. So after the burn out I just ran it down the track (no time slip).

The second run we tried to get rid of some of the engine proposing (rev up idle down) by leaning out the idle circuit. We went from the 70 pill to a 75 and dialed the idle circuit back by three notches. This did smooth out the idle, but the engine seemed to labor and after the burn out did not want to stay running. Ran a 8.290 at 155.95 three tenths faster than our best run and one MPH slower. Hottest EGT was 1095, the number two cylinder read 450, for some reason that cylinder has always been cold. 60 foot was 1.197. Air density was 1798

The third run we fattened it back up let it porpoise, it launched hard and straight and seem to run much better. Ran a 8.258 at 157 MPH. Other than the porpoise idle it idled fine, no problems with it running after the burnout. 60 foot was slower at 1.240. Air density was 1633

All testing was done with 43 bottom pulley and a 56 top (-23.2 under driven verses the 43 bottom 54 top we had talked about (did this because of your feeling that we would be to fast with the 43 / 54 combination))

Launch was at 4271 RPM the EGT on number two is crazy starts at 678 and at the end of the run is 280 and is not smooth at all (I’m thinking the sensor is bad)

Max boost at the top end was 10.32

So now we have to slow it down by .250 to run our 8.500 index.

Both the engine and the transmission ran MUCH cooler than without the blower.

All in all a good day
(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=672;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:29:44 PM
May 05, 2013, 03:36:51 PM

Went testing yesterday, here is a summery

Goals, smooth out the idle, get closer to the 8.500 index
We played around with the idle, but did not make much improvement on the idle
First run
Air Density 1973
Top Pulley 58  (went bigger here)
Pill 70
Fuel Pressure 81.98
Top end Boost 9.67
60 foot 1.263
¼ mile   8.548  154.42
Comments, for and 8.5 index this is close, it was a dude on the top end, EGT’s right side very low and uneven, feel so sloppy thought I would not be able to run it this slow for the season so made the decision to see if we could get to 8.00 instead of running 8.500 and if the motor couldn’t take it so be it.

Second Run
Air Density 2052
Top pulley 54 (more air, make it leaner)
Pill 70
Fuel Pressure 82.08
Top end Boost 11.30
60 foot 1.222
¼ mile 8.319 156.79
Comment, sounded strong, EGT’s were much more even right side lower than the left, felt like it was working, made the decision to run 8.500 for the rest of the season to save the motor.

Third Run
Air Density 2077
Top pulley 57
Pill 70
Fuel Pressure 79.43
Top end Boost 9.67
60 foot 1.260
¼ mile 8.459 154.85
Comment, sounded ok, want to go faster, but will resist. EGT’s right side over 100 degrees cooler than the left side.


Fourth Run
Air Density 2045
Top pulley 58 (less air)
Pill 75 (less fuel)
Fuel Pressure 76.24
Top end Boost 9.34
60 foot 1.237
¼ mile 8.455 154.47
Comment, sounded ok. EGT’s right side over 200 degrees cooler than the left side. Upper RPM curve is smooth on the graph.

Left head needs to come off and be sealed that same way we did the right after the first start up. It is leaking. New item on turnaround list, check valve cover bolts for tightness, ask me why.

All testing today was done without a shift light as it quit working, all shifts were within 100 RPM of 6300, most were less than 50 off.

Graph below is off the fourth run

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=719;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 07, 2013, 12:40:54 PM
Today at 03:37:08 PM

Well it seems like I was just here, only on the other side. I hope this is the last time this season I am pulling heads for coolant leaks

Once again there is no obvious leaks present

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=744;image)

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=746;image)

The trailer looks like a race trailer now, at lease the weather is good.

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=748;image)

The offending head is on the work bench to be cleaned up and reinstalled

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=750;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 09, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
I was also in my trailer today, Steve was over. I got the head off, sealed the coolant leak up, head back on, valves set, and the NEW BLOWER on.

Looks like rain tomorrow, I think club racing will be rained out, and my swap meet is Saturday morning rain or shine, Saturday afternoon may be OK to see if it runs and does not leak. If it does Matt might finally get his wish and see the radiator, pump etc go away.,

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=760;image)

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=762;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on May 09, 2013, 10:21:52 PM
Glenn - That's a nice looking blower... say more please.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 10, 2013, 04:57:46 AM
Glenn - That's a nice looking blower... say more please.

It is the new Littlefield.

What was on the engine was a modified retro high helix anodized stripped used blower that I picked up three years ago.

I finally put it on this past winter in the attempt to pick up 3 tenths so that I could run an 8.5 index.

I went to the gasser drivers meeting this April and they had inserted into the rules "standard roots blowers only". What they had done is copied out of the NHRA rule book heritage series rule book the wording on blowers, no realizing that NHRA had amending that rule specifically allowing high helix blowers. The rule makes no sense when you think about it because it is a index class.

So. I contacted them and than ordered this blower (they have now realized the mistake, but to late for me).

This is a "Standard 8-71" anodized stripped blower. As the blower is bagged I saw no reason to pay for the polished version. The bottom front half is completely open and the rear is a delta. the top hole is shorter and the case "raps" around the rotor much farther than the old style. The end plates have been strengthen. http://www.littlefieldblowers.com/products.shtml

Right now it is so tight you can hardly turn it over with your hands and a large pulley on the top.

I'll report on performance difference once it is broken in.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 13, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
Just found this picture on another web site

(http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1935092&d=1368503721)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on May 14, 2013, 06:18:27 PM
Cool stuff, thanks for the info Glenn.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 21, 2013, 06:32:16 PM
Went testing Friday, and ran the gasser series race on Saturday; This is after fixing the leaking head gasket on the right side (this time) and bolting the brand new Littlefield standard 8/71 blower on. I first ran a tank of fuel through it to take some of the tightness out of the blower, it still has a ways to go to be broken in, I still have not gotten the shift light working. The bulb is ok, the connections seem Ok, I think the MSD RPM switch is broke. Here is a summery

Get closer to the 8.500 index

First run, Friday night 6:10 PM
Air Density 1640
Top Pulley 58
Pill 75
Fuel Pressure 82.11
Top end Boost 10.13
Sift to second gear 6479
60 foot 1.316
¼ mile   8.698  155.68
Comments, This is the first run with the new blower. This is slower than with the old carb. setup, need to do some work here.

Second Run, Friday night 7:08 PM
Air Density 1512
Top Pulley 54
Pill 75
Fuel Pressure 79.62
Top end Boost  11.94
Sift to second gear 6407
60 foot 1.226
¼ mile   8.254  158.89
Comments, Pumped more air into the engine, leaned it out. This is really unusually good air. This was a very smooth run, when I got out at the top end I thought I had run a slower run than the last one. Engine really liked this set up, but it is too fast for the 8.5 we are looking for.

Third Run, Friday night 8:04 PM
Air Density 1529
Top pulley 56
Pill 75
Fuel Pressure 80.27
Top end Boost 10.65
Sift to second gear 6481
60 foot 1.253
¼ mile 8.469 157.42
Comment, Good comparison run  (air quality). Took a little air away (fattened up a little to make it go slower. Still too fast. Engine struggled a little to get to the shift point. Really pulled hard after the shift. Accelerometer went from .57 to 1.14


Fourth Run, Friday night 9:04 PM
Air Density 1119
Top pulley 57
Pill 80
Fuel Pressure 77.42
Top end Boost 10.65
Sift to second gear 6494
60 foot 1.248
¼ mile 8.483 157.42
Comment, Air quality jumped up. Took a little air away (fattened up a little to make it go slower), took some fuel away to try and keep the air fuel ratio close. Still just a touch to fast, but close. Engine did not like this, felt rough.

Ok, now Saturday, Gasser series racing, You have to remember I have only been running the dragster three years now and each year I have made significant changes to the engine so data from one year is not good for data for the next year (don’t laugh).
Gasser series is 1/8 mile ET racing, so I have no ¼ mile times (so for comparison a ¼ mile 8.483 is an 1/8 mile 5.427)

First round of qualifying, Saturday 1:44 PM
Air Density 1896
Top pulley 57
Pill 80
Fuel Pressure 74.19
Top end Boost 10.84
Sift to second gear 6568
60 foot 1.270
1/8 mile 5.301 134.87
Comment, Air quality is closer to normal for around here. Decided to make no changes between last run last night and this run. Track prep may not have been as good and I had some wheel spin of the line. There was a sharp peak in engine RPM right before the shift to second, in .05 seconds the engine RPM jumped 156 RPM. The air would have had the effect of fattening it up. Ran to fast for a ¼ mile 8.5

Second round of qualifying, Saturday 2:49 PM
Air Density 2007
Top pulley 59
Pill 85
Fuel Pressure 66.36
Top end Boost 9.02
Sift to second gear 6487
60 foot 1.277
1/8 mile 5.364 132.27
Comment, Air quality still falling. Took some more fuel and air away. Still too fast, but going in the right direction. Felt pretty good.

Third round of qualifying, Saturday 4:15 PM
Air Density 2262
Top pulley 60
Pill 90
Fuel Pressure 57.83
Top end Boost 8.43
Sift to second gear 6434
60 foot 1.283
1/8 mile 5.368 134.42
Comment, Air quality still falling. Took some more fuel and air away. Fuel pressure as well as boost is falling off pretty good now. Still too fast, but going in the right direction. Felt pretty good.

Ok, now we are into the first round of elimination so we decided not to play with it and see if we could predict an ET.
First round of eliminations, Saturday 6:10 PM
Air Density 2270
Top pulley 60
Pill 90
Fuel Pressure 59.59
Top end Boost 9.09
Sift to second gear 6200
60 foot 1.276
1/8 mile 5.378 131.88
Comment, I short shifted by 200 RPM so my ET was down. I treed the guy though so won the race by .1144 seconds.

Second round of eliminations, Saturday 7:34 PM
Air Density 1842
Top pulley 60
Pill 90
Fuel Pressure 64.85
Top end Boost 8.76
Sift to second gear 6343
60 foot 1.274
1/8 mile 5.391 132.15
Comment, Air got better. We were concussed by this run, it was almost identical in shift points, launch, etc as the last run but lost .020 on the run. It finally dawned on us that the blower was still new and still losing up. Over laid the two run graphs and low and behold boost at the shift on run 4 was 8.05 and on the last run 7.91. In almost all other respects the graphs from the two runs over laid themselves. I treed the guy again but it was not enough to overcome his dial in of 6.22 when he ran a 6.221. I lost by .0197 seconds.
Not a bad outing for my first race with a blower and mechanical fuel injection, I’m happy, cannot wait till the next outing. I can’t go this weekend as my better half, crew chief will be out of town.

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on June 07, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
So after 40 days and 40 nights of rain and cold weather it looks like we might get to go to the track tomorrow. The dragster has been wanting to quit running at the top end of the track (fuel running away from the  pick up) so I have been wanting to install a primer system

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1510.jpg)

I purchased a "Kit" that used Enderle's billet tank through AlkyDigger

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1512.jpg)

To do what I want which is a little out of the box I had to purchase some additional stuff

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1513.jpg)

So this install made me really nervous as it just seemed to fall together, normally you have to fight and fit things many times but this just seemed to go together. The return from the "K" valve was just the right height of the bottom of the belly pan

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1511.jpg)

I removed the two plugs from the side of the primer tank and two -8 fittings screwed right in, I removed the straight 1/8 NPT to -4 fitting out of the bottom and installed a 1/8 NPT 90 -4 fitting on the bottom. On the -8 fitting I installed a -8 coupler.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1518.jpg)

So the tank is just the right height so that the bottom fitting just sits on the belly pan, the -8 return on the tank is just the right distance from the side of the chassis and bottom of the belly pan. The wiring from the old electric fuel pump was in just the right location to connect the primmer pump. With it plumbed into the return line from the "K" valve the tank will always be full once started for the first time on a race day. That just makes one less thing that needs to be done in the pit.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1524.jpg)

I replaced the old fuel pump toggle switch with the rubber capped momentary on starter button ordered from Summit, and now at a push of a button I get a nice squirt of alcohol into the rear most port of the hat on top of the blower. I had used the rear ports in the blower for my rear two injectors. We will try it out tomorrow.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2013_06_15/DSC_1532.jpg)



Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 04, 2013, 08:41:02 AM
Well it has been awhile since I actually posted anything on the dragster.

Well it has been raining, raining, raining, and more rain.

I did get out two weeks ago and really hope to get out again tomorrow to do some more testing, but it looks like rain.

It is really important to get out tomorrow as I want to go to Norwalk the 20th for an NDRL race. The problem is that, one it is an index race and I have not gotten that squared away, two it is a pro tree and have had no practice on a pro tree, I may go anyway to get away from this RAIN (and yes I am tempted to use a forbidden word here), and three it is ¼ mile and lately for one reason or another it seems all my racing has been 1/8 mile, I hate 1/8 mile.

Went club racing Friday June 21 club racing 1/8 mile. Here is a summery

First run, Friday night 8:23 PM
Air Density 2200
Top Pulley 60
Pill 90
Fuel Pressure 60.38
Top end Boost 9.02
60 foot 1.316
Calculated ¼ mile   8.443
A/F ratio 3.808
Comments, I did not write down the pulley size and pill so this was done from memory, data is questinable.

Second Run, Friday night 9:22 PM
Air Density 1810
Top Pulley 62
Pill 90
Fuel Pressure 59.82
Top end Boost  8.31
60 foot 1.303
Calculated ¼ mile   8.586
A/F ratio 3.810 
Comments, This is really unusually good air. Took away some air, but the density go better the end result was little change

Third Run, Friday night 10:15 PM
Comment, I had to throw this run out (won the race), dew had fallen and after the 1/8 mile marker I had to get out of it as it got really squirrely (rear tires started to spin in the dew on the track). Data was all screwed up and graph was useless.



Ok, now Saturday, Gasser series racing, June 22.
Gasser series is 1/8 mile ET racing, so I have no ¼ mile times (so for comparison a ¼ mile 8.483 is a 1/8 mile 5.427). We only had two time trails as there was a bad accident that shut the track down for awhile, the guy is ok?, but will be in the hospital for awhile.

First round of qualifying, Saturday 3:07 PM
Air Density 3079
Top pulley 62
Pill 95
Fuel Pressure 51.61
Top end Boost 7.53
60 foot 1.312
Cal 1/4 mile 8.702
AF Ratio 3.688
Comment, Felt terrible, to slow for the 8.5, fuel out the pipes, need to make big changes

Second round of qualifying, Saturday 4:35 PM
Air Density 3249
Top pulley 60
Pill 105
Fuel Pressure 52.06
Top end Boost 8.31
60 foot 1.265
Cal 1/4 mile 8.392
AF Ratio 4.074
Comment, Much more like it, but now too fast. This run was against my arched nemesis (a good friend who in the second round of eliminations I give the race away to by breaking out and red lighting). I had my best light ever a .508 and beat his ET by .1865, now if only I could do that in a race.

Ok, now we are into the first round of elimination so we decided not to play with it and see if we could predict an ET.
First round of eliminations, Saturday 6:13 PM
Air Density 3100
Top pulley 60
Pill 105
Fuel Pressure 50.99
Top end Boost 8.24
60 foot 1.247
Cal 1/4 mile 8.410
A/F Ratio 4.072
Comment, Treed him and won by .0281.

Second round of eliminations, Saturday 7:41 PM
Air Density 2858
Top pulley 60
Pill 105
Fuel Pressure 53.28
Top end Boost 8.31
60 foot 1.241
Cal 1/4 mile 8.355
AF Ratio 4.110

Comments. This guy and I end up racing each other a lot as are ETs are always close. We have yet to have a race, we each keep giving the race to the other one, this time I red lite and broke out. The dragster sounded good and felt good, it likes this air fuel ratio better, but once again I am too fast for the 8.5 index.

Serious consideration is being given to going in the other direction (8.000 index). The problem boils down to engine RPM. I am concerned that this engine will not last if I push the RPM higher, currently turning 6400s at the top end. This is a stroked Pontiac 400 punched and stroked out to 461. A simple fix would be to put a higher tire on the rear. I am currently running a 31X13X15 M/T. by going to a 32 high tire I increase the circumference by 3.96 percent (drop the top end RPM by 253)(circumference 97.0 to 101). No one makes a 32X13X15 tire Hoosier has a 13.5X13.5X15 in a lightweight C07 compound, but the side wall will not clear and I cannot space it out as the tire rim combo I have now is spaced out, so I would have to buy rims also. Hoosier also makes a 32.0X13.0X15 in a D05 compound which is a soft compound and one of the problems is I have low HP and based on the graphs I am dead hooking now. M/T makes a 33X10.5X15 tire with a M3 compound (medium). This tire is interesting in that the compound is a little harder, the with is smaller so it might help with the launch, but I afraid that I do not have the HP to turn a 2 inch taller tire.  INPUT REQUESTED

Tuning, it I stay with the 8.5 I think I want to try a 110 pill and adjust pulleys to get an A/F ratio of 4.1. By taking away more fuel and keeping the A/F ratio about the same I should take away HP and slow it down a little more. Sure would like to go to the 8.000, but have the RPM  / tire problem.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 07, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
Well we really wanted to test this weekend. I want to go to Norwalk for NDRL

Briggs and Stratton Summer Jam
at the Blue Suede Cruise
Summit Motorsports Park
Norwalk, OH

http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?topic=48.0
http://summitmotorsportspark.com/index.php/component/jevents/icalrepeat.detail/2013/07/21/74/-/-?Itemid=1

We still do not have the 8.5 index straightened away and kind have hit the physical limit of slowing down with air fuel mixture (top pulley cannot be any larger without changing the belt guard and the bottom pulley is a 42 tooth pulley and has the drive for the belt for the fuel pump inside).

We have made the adventurous decision to go for the 8.0 index instead.

Empire was rained out Friday, washed out Saturday, so we decided to drive two hours to go to Esta Safety Park Dragstrip‎, 8091 Eastwood Road, Cicero, NY 13039. Got up at 5 in the morning to leave by 6 (two hour drive), got within 10 minutes of it and received it was closed due to flooding.

Plans now are to blow off club racing July 12th for testing for Norwalk.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 10, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
Well did some test and tune today to work on .400 Pro Tree and 8.50 index racing. Been working off and on on this for awhile now with not too much success. The vehicle has been too fast and I have been too slow.

The plan is to go to the NDRL race at Edgewater Sports Park Cleves, Ohio in two weeks. I have never run a pro tree and an index so this will all be new to me.

First run, Saturday 1:33 PM August 10
Air Density 2317
Top Pulley 63
Bottom Pulley 42
Pill 110
Top end Fuel Pressure 53.82
Top end Boost 6.74
Reaction time a perfect .400 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
60 foot 1.275
¼ mile   8.467 / 159.23 MPH
A/F ratio 4.048
Comments, Seem dead off the launch, engine RPM graph was flat after launch, two peaks in g-force after launch, short shifted by 300 RPM to second gear

Second run, Saturday 3:11 PM August 10
Air Density 2413
Top Pulley 63
Bottom Pulley 42
Pill 113 Leaned it out a little
Top end Fuel Pressure 49.83
Top end Boost 6.94
Reaction time  .423 not to bad
60 foot 1.275
¼ mile   8.526 / 159.20 MPH
A/F ratio 4.152 
Comments, Air was a little worse, and took a little fuel away, I hit the limiter for a brief second before the shift to second. Second good light on the pro tree, ET would be ok for a 8.500 index

Third run, Saturday 4:57 PM August 10
Air Density 2280
Top Pulley 63
Bottom Pulley 42
Pill 113 Leaned out a little
Top end Fuel Pressure 47.72
Top end Boost 7.07
Reaction time  .389  Oops
60 foot 1.267
¼ mile   8.451 / 162.27 MPH Fastest speed I have run yet, I have run faster ETs, but not speed
A/F ratio 4.175 
Comments, By the time I ran after sitting in the staging lanes the air got better, was to fast again, Shift to second was right on

Forth run, Saturday 6:52 PM August 10
Air Density 2077
Top Pulley 64
Bottom Pulley 42
Pill 113 Leaned out a little
Top end Fuel Pressure 48.12
Top end Boost 6.68
Reaction time  .394 two in a row
60 foot 1.272
¼ mile   8.504 / 158.45 MPH I can live with this for a 8.500 index!!!!!!!!!!!
A/F ratio 4.138  This may be the magic number with the 113 bypass pill (adjust pulleys to get A/F Ratio)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A touch fatter than the 8.526 run, slowed it down perfect.

A great day of testing, we are in the ball park!

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on August 13, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Look's like you had a good weekend also ! Good luck at Norwalk I hear that it's a great track.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 13, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
Look's like you had a good weekend also ! Good luck at Norwalk I hear that it's a great track.

Edgewater Park in Ohio not Norwalk yet
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on August 21, 2013, 03:03:35 PM
Glen did you get a chance to race last weekend?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 21, 2013, 08:45:37 PM
Glen did you get a chance to race last weekend?

Tes, but cannot race this weekend at Edgerwater, I am having some back problems
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 15, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
A Friend picked this up from Bang Shift and sent it to me

"Steve and Glenn are in Epping NH for the first New England Hot Rod Reunion.
Rain cancelled the racing Thurs. Glenn got a time trial in on Friday before the rain and had his car pictured
on the Bangshift.com site that it also live streaming the racing. Weather looks good for Sat.

Here is the link to the live streaming on the internet and a picture of Glenn, Anne and his son George at the starting line ( green shirts)
He has the full body on to make the car look extra nice !"
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 20, 2013, 08:33:05 PM
Well, we lost .5 of a second and have been looking for it. Pulled the transmission,

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=1823;image)

and had the torque converter cut to check it, Put it back in

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=1824;image)

not there, compression check all good not there, check data recorder for lost values, fuel pressure, boost etc. not there, changed out the MSD box, hope that was it, will test and tune this Sunday, next week we want to go to Bowling Green and will regardless.

Only hint we have is fuel out the exhaust on launch, 60 foots are terrible.

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=1825;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 22, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
I'm post this here first so I can link to the pictures and put them in the middle of the text .

We went and did some test and tune today.

The symptom we have is the engine comes up to RPM on the trans brake, I release the trans brake and the dragster launches, and then falls on its face. It then picks’s itself up and has a pretty normal run. I hit my shift point at 6300 RPM, RPMs drop off as you would expect and then climbs again.

What is pictured below and in the attached files (not sure which is easiest for you to view) is a graph produced in the data logger.

It appears to show a drastic drop in fuel pressure before the slump in engine RPM. The first graph shows the complete run. The second graph is just the area between the blue vertical lines to zoom in on the troubled area.

This is the zoom in on the trouble area.
When the engine RPM reaches 4756 the fuel pressure is at 31.92 pounds.
When the engine RPM reaches 4810 the fuel pressure has dropped to 3.37 pounds.
When the engine RPM drops to 3527 the fuel pressure recovered to 16.13 pounds and continues to climb.

The red vertical lines are for reference between the two graphs of fuel pressure and engine RPM.

If we lean the engine out (not changing the fuel main bypass, but add air by decreasing the top pulley the problem is not as pronounced. We are blowing fuel out the number 8 cylinder.

This graph represents an 8.904 ET run in the ¼ mile
We lean it out and ran an 8.409

We have check compression, valve lash, put in a new MSD box, New coil, removed the primmer, check timing, increased timing to 30 degrees, check the inside of the distributor cap, remove and cut open the torque converter (no problems found)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 27, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Arrived at NDRL race in Bowling Green yesterday.

Wired up the flapper I n the tank and made 4 time trials.

The problem is not completely fixed but better.

We have been trying to run an 8.5 index all summer.

Decided that as this is the last race of the season to push it a little harder.

first pass was 8.371, second was 8.129,

third we leaded it out and pushed more air had a .040 r/t on the .400 pro tree and ran 8.035 and on the fourth pass had a reaction time of .037 and ran 8.093 on the same tune and the a/d had gone away by 200 feet.  I think we are in the ball park, but still the fuel pressure drops a little off the line??????
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 02, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
I have made the decision that our racing season is done for this year so this weekend the engine and transmission come out of the dragster and the dragster will get stored for the winter (need help to get it back up the drive way this Saturday, normal Car Nut time 9:00 AM). Need to build a shipping crate for the transmission.

That means work on the Gasser starts in two weeks.

Anyone thinking of coming please let me know so that food and drink are on hand.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 23, 2013, 09:14:11 PM
Truly a sad moment, the end of summer, the Jeep has its top and doors back on and ready for storage, and the dragster is in pieces.

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=2105;image)

(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55.0;attach=2106;image)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paladin AA/FA on October 24, 2013, 07:26:42 AM
I really like how you, "adjusted" the wall to fit the dragster in your shop. 
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 24, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
I really like how you, "adjusted" the wall to fit the dragster in your shop.

That gets a lot of attention, it goes to the enclosed back porch, not the living room as so think.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paladin AA/FA on October 26, 2013, 07:33:43 AM
You must have a very understanding wife!!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 26, 2013, 09:10:58 AM
You must have a very understanding wife!!
I was allowed the hole because I agreed to build her a new kitchen (which is almost done, just have to paint the inside of two more cabinets and put knobs on four doors and it is done (three years of building))
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: JeffV8 on October 26, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
Your never done next it will be the bathroom.  ;)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 26, 2013, 12:11:45 PM
Your never done next it will be the bathroom.  ;)
One down stairs bath is done, another awaits as well as an upper, small price to pay to have my fun, and excellent crew chief and BUG, don't get in her way at the track.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: proriv63 on October 27, 2013, 04:42:21 PM
Hi Glenn,
What slick do you run?  rim width?


thanks,
John
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 07, 2014, 12:06:44 PM

Matt has the engine in the dragster apart,the crank needs to be ground, bearings need replacement.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3522.jpg)

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3497.jpg)

A conservative estimate is there are 200 runs on these parts.

Plan is to now check every 50 runs.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3503.jpg)

There were never any shavings in the oil filter. It appears they were just hammered until they started to squeeze out the side and rub against the crank journal. The crank does need to be ground.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3507.jpg)

I could not get the shot I wanted of the cam. The one lobe has the start of a dish at the top. We will replace the cam with the same grind but with a more blower friendly lobe separation.

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3516.jpg)

I still think they look nice. I believe the engine is developing about 850 HP, we will put it on the dyno when rebuilt

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_engine/2014_01_06/DSC_3521.jpg)

Full update with pictures on my web site.
http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Week_2014_01_06_E.htm (http://www.leverfamilysite.com/2010_Front_Engine_Dragster_Week_2014_01_06_E.htm)
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Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on January 07, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Glenn,
I'm not pointing fingers or intending to be a smart aleck, but aren't the crank and bearings too short lived?

What lube oil was used? Was the oil diluting bad? How often was changed? What's system pressure?

Can the Pontiac go roller (cam)?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on January 07, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
If all bottoms are beaten out on mains and the top of rods you have some strong detonation going on.Either lean or to much timing especaily as soft as you are running blower.JMO From coloring I would say you got lucky.Looks like some heat on cpl of them.

As for tear down every 50 runs.IT COST NOTHING TO WORK on car was one of Alan Starr's favorite sayings. Cutting filter open or oberge is amust if not already doing so.

  I always mic bearings new and when pulled down look back at numbers.If more than cpl thou I look for why.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on January 07, 2014, 07:37:36 PM
But I'd expect that detonation at this level to at least crack plug's porcelains, right?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 07, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Glenn,
I'm not pointing fingers or intending to be a smart aleck, but aren't the crank and bearings too short lived?

What lube oil was used? Was the oil diluting bad? How often was changed? What's system pressure?

Can the Pontiac go roller (cam)?

Oil was change regularly, I did not cook to remove alky, I replace the oil with new, Brad Pen 40 weight. I do have problems with contamination from alky, pressure is 65? if I remember right, I would have to go back and look at the data. I have a roller for the soon to be built aluminum block (for two season from now), I do not want to spend the money now on one.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 07, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
If all bottoms are beaten out on mains and the top of rods you have some strong detonation going on.Either lean or to much timing especaily as soft as you are running blower.JMO From coloring I would say you got lucky.Looks like some heat on cpl of them.

As for tear down every 50 runs.IT COST NOTHING TO WORK on car was one of Alan Starr's favorite sayings. Cutting filter open or oberge is amust if not already doing so.

  I always mic bearings new and when pulled down look back at numbers.If more than cpl thou I look for why.

Timing is 30 degrees, EGR s on all cylinders, plugs all read cold. I might suspect hydrologicaling maybe with the head gasket problems I have had (leaks). System One filter, no filter to cut open, no pieces found when cleaning.

Mic the bearings in now part of maintenance but has not been in the past.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 07, 2014, 08:33:19 PM
But I'd expect that detonation at this level to at least crack plug's porcelains, right?
No indication of detonation on the plugs or pistions
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on January 08, 2014, 10:55:20 AM
Thanks for the answers Glenn. It sucks, but at least a bearing set and a crack regrind don't require a mortgage loan.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on January 08, 2014, 11:24:26 AM
Minimum 10# of oil pressure for every 1000 rpm
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 08, 2014, 11:33:59 AM
Minimum 10# of oil pressure for every 1000 rpm

Sounds like we are good then as our max RPM is set at 6500
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on January 08, 2014, 11:41:14 AM
Minimum 10# of oil pressure for every 1000 rpm
  With some of the Comp stuff we are lucky to have half of that with the 0 weight oil we use!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Frontenginedragsters on January 08, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
 Try to remember guys and gals:
This engine was assembled and run as a single 4brl engine.
The blower was bolted on after a season of racing with a carburetor.
The engine was not gone thru and clearances not adjusted for blown alcohol racing.
It will be re-assembled with more clearance and the owner will now learn about pulling the pan once a month.

Matt
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on January 08, 2014, 01:17:23 PM
I must be doing somthing wrong--- pull the pan every 3 years when its rebuild time or around 60 passes
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 08, 2014, 01:37:17 PM
I must be doing somthing wrong--- pull the pan every 3 years when its rebuild time or around 60 passes
I run the heck out this dragster, at lest a 100 passes in a year
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on January 08, 2014, 02:48:21 PM
Not enough tracks and races to do that here on the west coast, but we do have nice weather 8)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: coupemerc on January 08, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
Try to remember guys and gals:
This engine was assembled and run as a single 4brl engine.
The blower was bolted on after a season of racing with a carburetor.
The engine was not gone thru and clearances not adjusted for blown alcohol racing.
It will be re-assembled with more clearance and the owner will now learn about pulling the pan once a month.

Matt

Sounds like you have all the issues covered Matt. I would also recommend a set of aluminum rods that would be easier on the crank when you step the blower speed up.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on January 11, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
How about coated rod and main bearings ? do any of you guys use them ? I have been using them in mine and they are really nice . They are a little more expensive but well worth it . Every time I have taken my motor apart they look like brand new!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 10, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
Second run at Gateway Motor Sports Park ran an 8.020 on an 8.000 index
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: LZ on May 10, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
Glenn:
I sent you a facebook note .  If ya get a chance.
thanks
LZ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 10, 2014, 11:39:45 PM
Glenn:
I sent you a facebook note .  If ya get a chance.
thanks
LZ

I'll take a look

Went rounds here at Gateway NDRL lost in the finial by breaking out by .003


Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on May 11, 2014, 02:59:21 PM
Sounds like you had a great weekend Congrat's!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 11, 2014, 04:49:19 PM
Sounds like you had a great weekend Congrat's!

We were very happy with the weekend.

Not so happy with the way the "Pro Comp" Classes were run.

There were three 8.0 dragsters, in the first round of eliminations not one of them ran against another. I was paired against the 9.0 top qualifier (I was 8.0 top qualifier), another as paired against an 8.5 vehicle, and the third I do not know who he got paired with. Just does not seem right. It was explained to me that that was the rules and it was done for ease of running the series.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hotrod316 on May 12, 2014, 06:45:09 AM
glen did they change the format for pro comp?
Troy jump in
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: JrFuel Hayden on May 12, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
Glenn, does Gateway create their ladder based on the different index classes ? Case in point, you qualified with a 8.02 on your 8.00 index, but if a 9.00 index car qualified with a 9.01, he would be higher up the ladder than you. Which is what NHRA does in Comp Elim. Also what ladder system are they using, in our series, NHRA Heritage JrFuel, we use a Pro ladder, ie 1 races 8 in a 8 car field, Sportsman ladder is more like 1 races 5 in a 8 car field, again Q times based on indexes .
I hope this helps clear-up what Gateway is doing with Pro Comp.

Jon, Hayden Wheels 
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 12, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Glenn, does Gateway create their ladder based on the different index classes ? Case in point, you qualified with a 8.02 on your 8.00 index, but if a 9.00 index car qualified with a 9.01, he would be higher up the ladder than you. Which is what NHRA does in Comp Elim. Also what ladder system are they using, in our series, NHRA Heritage JrFuel, we use a Pro ladder, ie 1 races 8 in a 8 car field, Sportsman ladder is more like 1 races 5 in a 8 car field, again Q times based on indexes .
I hope this helps clear-up what Gateway is doing with Pro Comp.

Jon, Hayden Wheels

Gateway did not set up the running of the NDRL series, NDRL cars were run against themselves, and not cars from Gateway ProComp

Troy was the number one qualifier for the ProComp class. It was explained to me that is why I ran against him.

From what I understand there is no ladder after that for any of the ProComp other than 7.0 and 7.5.

With the way it is currently set up it seems to be a disadvantage to be a faster car (you have to sit at the staggered light and wait for the slower car to leave first).

I know it effected my RTs as I was cutting .020 lights in qualifying but .128 lights when running a staggered light (mind set of do go, don't go until you light comes on).

I do not want to make a big thing out of this, just did not seem right to me that there were three 8.0 vehicles in the first round of eliminations and none of them ran against each other.

It is my intention to express my feeling on this in a very polite letter to the NDRL officers.

In the Gasser Series races I have run locally a board is set up in the pits and vehicles are paired based on qualifying times it it was the responsibility of the drivers to pair up in the staging lanes. This was an ET based system and I really liked the idea of index as there is more skill required in the tuning area, and I was just starting to get comfortable in that area.

I may have to reevaluate my expectations.

The rules for NDRL were written long before I came along so I have no right to complain.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Totally T on May 12, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Steve, Nothing has changed at all. The format has not changed since day one.

I was number one qualifier in PRO Comp and had the bye. The bye runner goes to the back of the line and sits till he either gets it or he runs it.  We could go ahead and give the bye runner the bye and pull him out of the line at that time but if someone fails to report they cannot make the show then we have two byes and that looks bad. There were two 8.00 cars with Glenn and Jarrod Bradshaw. Jarrod ran a 8.50 car and Glenn got me.

Jon, the Comp and Gas classes "Qualify" only to award points for doing so, making sure the cars are going laps as we are selling a show to the track, and to figure out who earns the bye for round 1. There technically is no number 1 qualifier for each index just one overall for the group. Im not slighting Glenn at all for being the best of the two 8.00 cars as he clearly was...he ran close to his index every lap and I do have the run sheets here to prove that. As with Heritage, we use a pro ladder for the 7.0 and 7.5 classes.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 12, 2014, 06:33:29 PM
Steve, Nothing has changed at all. The format has not changed since day one.

I was number one qualifier in PRO Comp and had the bye. The bye runner goes to the back of the line and sits till he either gets it or he runs it.  We could go ahead and give the bye runner the bye and pull him out of the line at that time but if someone fails to report they cannot make the show then we have two byes and that looks bad. There were two 8.00 cars with Glenn and Jarrod Bradshaw. Jarrod ran a 8.50 car and Glenn got me.

Jon, the Comp and Gas classes "Qualify" only to award points for doing so, making sure the cars are going laps as we are selling a show to the track, and to figure out who earns the bye for round 1. There technically is no number 1 qualifier for each index just one overall for the group. Im not slighting Glenn at all for being the best of the two 8.00 cars as he clearly was...he ran close to his index every lap and I do have the run sheets here to prove that. As with Heritage, we use a pro ladder for the 7.0 and 7.5 classes.

Again I am not tiring to make a big thing out of this, in fact will make no more comments here on this topic.

I said there were three 8.0 vehicles because that is what Jason (race coordinator) told me.

I was next to Jarrod Bradshaw's 8.0 dragster in the staging lanes and did get to run against him in the qualifying rounds.

From a show point of view I think these two running against each other would have been more of a crowd pleaser.

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hotrod316 on May 13, 2014, 05:38:57 AM
thanks Troy,  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on May 13, 2014, 12:54:59 PM
I really like that twin !
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 13, 2014, 04:31:28 PM
I really like that twin !

As do I!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 22, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
I still am reliving this.

Wish there was a video
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on May 23, 2014, 05:36:03 AM
Great pics Glenn, glad to see you back on action.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Keven on May 23, 2014, 07:25:02 AM
Glenn
Love the close up.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Dolmetsch on May 24, 2014, 04:59:37 PM
I love the photo of both of you standing by your rails. Nothing better then gray haired old farts with FEDS and I am in a position to know.
Great photo and looks like fun. As for controversies, too bad. I can't deal with that stuff anymore so switched to airfield, heads up, no prize racing. But that just me. Main thing is you get to enjoy the car. Watching the build from the git go it must be very satisfying to be enjoying it like you are. A big thumbs up from across the lake!
don
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 24, 2014, 05:33:34 PM
I love the photo of both of you standing by your rails. Nothing better then gray haired old farts with FEDS and I am in a position to know.
Great photo and looks like fun. As for controversies, too bad. I can't deal with that stuff anymore so switched to airfield, heads up, no prize racing. But that just me. Main thing is you get to enjoy the car. Watching the build from the git go it must be very satisfying to be enjoying it like you are. A big thumbs up from across the lake!
don
I would be happy to run with no prizes, as prize money muddies the waters when it comes to whether you are a business or not and that muddies the waters from an income tax point of view and DOT numbers, and log books etc.

I do not want to be audited by the IRS because I'm out having fun, and that is the only reason I race is to have fun.

If the local track ran a pro tree, 1/4 mile with an 8.0 index I would have no need to travel.

I will miss the next NDRL race in bowling green but will make the Norwalk race.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: JeffV8 on May 25, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
Hi Glenn ,
Went to Quaker City today for the nostalgia funny cars and a bunch of nostalgia dragsters were there. So for the guys that like different engine combo I took some pics of this car

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
Hi Glenn ,
Went to Quaker City today for the nostalgia funny cars and a bunch of nostalgia dragsters were there. So for the guys that like different engine combo I took some pics of this car
Yes, very nice Oldsmobile powered FED
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 18, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
Norwalk racing report.

We changed a lot of things on the dragster.

We added two degrees of timing, now at 30.

Added ¼ pounds of air to the tires, now at 8 PSI

First round of qualifying changed the main pill to 95, top pulley to 57, A/F was at 4.289 for the run, was dead and flat and sounded fat at the top end, ran a 7.986 too fast for a 8.00 index.

Second round change main pill to 100, top pulley to 58 (bottom pulley both rounds was a 42, A/F was a 4.31, top end was better, EGT’s are still hot, no heat in the plugs, timing both rounds was 30 ran 8.080 at 160 MPH (MPH fell from 162). 

That puts us as number 6 in qualifying, this is a very competitive class.

I need to pick up another .050 might try to lean it out just a bit more?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 20, 2014, 06:39:40 PM
Norwalk update

Well we made it to the semi finals (only three vehicles left in the Pro Comp class).

Pulled up to run that round, started to do our burn out, and broke. Had sparks at my feet, pulled off to the side of the track and our competitor got a by run.

Towed it back to the pits and it looks like we sheared the bolts that hold the torque converter to the flex plate. They were grade eight bolts. I will replace them with ARP bolts.

I have to pull the transmission and torque converter, so I think I will have three additional lugs welded to the converter.

I want to get the dragster into the garage on Tuesday so I can get started on repairs (we will drive back from Norwalk on Monday)

While decommissioning the dragster found two more things, one there are several drips of transmission fluid on the transmission pan (hopefully it is just the seal on the front of the transmission) and when I went to crank it over I found I had no electrical power, did find one wire that had been disconnected by a bolt that was thrown out of the flex plate. But still no power. Will look into this when I pull the transmission.

Had a great time with great people and very good competitors. Racing is VERY tight.

A big thank you to Steve for the education he continues to give me.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: fedonnitro on July 28, 2014, 04:07:13 PM
Glenn I truly love your digger! Someone that builds what they really like are becoming fewer - like myself running a common blown alky small block chevy. The chute pack and full body is awesome and something I would like to have on mine. The weed burners are cool as well. Best of luck!!!
Carl
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 28, 2014, 08:47:30 PM
Glenn I truly love your digger! Someone that builds what they really like are becoming fewer - like myself running a common blown alky small block chevy. The chute pack and full body is awesome and something I would like to have on mine. The weed burners are cool as well. Best of luck!!!
Carl

This dragster was built by Roo Man. I did make some design choices. The look was his.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 02, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
Well here is the finial update from the Blue Suede Cruise NDRL race for Throttle Stop Racing.

We made it to the semifinals. Went up to make that run, started our burnout and sheared all the bolts between the flex plate and the torque converter.

We were done.

When we got back to the trailer found out that we also had no power anywhere.

Got it home and started looking, though that it would be an easy fix (replace the flex plate and get a new ring welded onto the torque converter (six lugs this time instead of the three).

Talked with Lyndon of Rutland transmissions and he thought no damage would have been done to the transmission.

Pulled the transmission and took it to the local transmission shop to get the new ring put on the torque converter and have him look at the transmission. $1700 later all should be good.

Now we started to look into the electrical problem, very strange, had power everywhere but nothing worked.

Turned out that one of the bolts that flew off the torque converter cut the ground wire as clean as if it was clipped with a set of wire cutters.

Hooked the ground back up and everything works again.

Started to put it back together today and found that one of the alignment dowels from the engine to the bell housing was missing.

It has been suggested that the bolts were loose on the flex plate to the torque converter and that is why they sheared. I find this hard to believe.

Matt Shaff of Pro Formace Engines dropped off a new dowel alignment pin tonight and suggested that if that dowel had worked its way loose on the track that maybe that is what caused the bolts to shear as there would have been additional stress on them with the missing alignment dowel.

So....we should be ready for finial assembly tomorrow.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Dolmetsch on August 03, 2014, 05:18:07 AM
At our May race I had my bolts come loose in the converter when the car was warming up. I never had the trouble before and was lucky as we got it shut of before any damage was done. I burnt the back of my hands tightening them but have added  that now to my list of pre race checks. It is always those little things that you don't suspect that bite you. Usually at the most inappropriate time too. Anyway Congrats on making to the Semis. Next time all should be well!
don
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 11, 2014, 06:47:45 AM
Running the Gold cup this weekend, went out in the second round, red light. first round (running 1/8 mile) Had a bad light but the dragster ran a 5.07 on a 5.05 dial in.

In qualifying had a .404 (.004) Best reaction time in the class.

We were running .400 Pro Tree. I had a new valve body put into the transmission and the Pro Brake in it is quicker than the one on the old valve body. Up to now have never had a red light when running a Pro Tree, this weekend I had three, (2) .375's and a .380.

Need to slow the vehicle reaction time down with no electronics.

I'm going to try a longer throw button.

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 08, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Well it has been awhile since I posted an update.

This winter we put new aluminum rods and pistons into the engine from Venolia.

Ran the NDRL series of races in the 8.0 index.

We also ran the Hot Rod Reunion in both Bowling Green and Epping.

Highlights were

Gateway Motor Sports park. I was on top of the qualifying  pile running .023 over on his PC/A index until Troy Wilson in the third qualifier on Saturday afternoon to take that spot away and ran .019. Semifinal pairings had Lever downing Dale Fidler and newcomer Shorty Rader taking the bye to advance to the final. Lever sealed his fate on a breakout pass going .003 under trying to best Raders pass running dead on his index with Rader earning his first NDRL victory.

Blue Suede Cruise at Summit Motor Sport Park. Made it to the semi-finals and went to do our burn out and sheared all the bolts holding the flex plate to the torque converter.

We ended up being fourth in the points.

Hot Rod Reunion in Epping. Made it to the finals, where it was a double break out, where I broke out more.

Not bad for skipping one race and being the first season running a point series with a blower.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on November 29, 2014, 10:17:45 AM
Been going over the dragster.

Looks like I need recertification on

HANS, Fire Bottles, Belts, Blower Bag, and Blower restraints.

Time to check yours now.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on December 25, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
Merry
Christmas
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 17, 2015, 03:12:03 PM
Finial round, HRR 2014 Epping NH
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 23, 2015, 08:47:33 AM
I have been having terrible thoughts lately, thinking of selling the dragster, doing some traveling in the RV, and than getting back to the build on the gasser.

So here is the question.

What is a price that this stuff would actually sell at?

Fully equipped trailer (custom 28 foot) with generator, tools, extra parts, tow vehicle (Honda three wheeler).

8.0 dragster complete with current certifications, in great shape

Where to list it?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Pipe Dreams on May 24, 2015, 06:54:06 PM
Glenn, Sorry to hear your thinking of selling the car :'(. I would list it on racingjunk.com if u are serious about selling.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 24, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
The key question is for how much. Still not sure I will.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Pipe Dreams on May 24, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
I guess that's the million dollar question. I guess it depends on how bad you want to get rid of it. Seen some nice cars on there for a fair price,but I would'nt  sell myself short, your's is a beautiful car. 
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2015, 06:46:59 AM
I'm in no hurry. I haven't even taken the first step of making the ad.

Just wondering what a fair price is that would sell.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on May 25, 2015, 08:51:48 AM
From the prices on cars I have seen I would say in the 35-45% of what you spent on the car.... Your car is a piece of art though so it should go for more! Not wanting to insult you though
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2015, 10:12:45 AM
No insult, this is not my first project vehicle, and I know you never get out what you put in. I was actually thinking less.

My problem is I would want to sell everything, trailer,, tow vehicle tools etc. This will make it a big ticket item.

I still have not written the ad, but I might give it a shot and list.

Still going to Bowling Green for NDRL
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on May 25, 2015, 10:38:01 AM
Glen, sorry to hear about your change in direction, I wish you happy travels, hope you’ll stay in touch with the forum crowd. Hope to see in Bowling Green if I get to go this year.

Car by Roo, fuel system by Spud, engine by Matt, transmission by Dan, owned by Glenn… that’s all A+ grade stuff. Good luck.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2015, 11:00:04 AM
I will be at Bowling Green, nothing cast in stone yet.

Will keep racing, but may be in a door car. Back is giving me problems again and is getting hard to get in and out. Had two epidurals with the last month.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on May 25, 2015, 02:54:50 PM
Hate to see you sell that beautiful car but I do understand !  I am hoping to push my self for 2 more years and I will have raced for fifty years ! None of us know whats around the corner so enjoy every day and I wish you luck with what ever you decide !Bill
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on May 25, 2015, 03:04:50 PM
With your passion for the FED's hate to see you sell out. Then they can be challange to get in and out of with good back.

As for what it is worth depends on whos buying and what you are selling. Your stuff looks to top notch and with that guy who built your cars rep it should bring good price. If me and not in hurry I would fish some. Easy to drop price and not so much when raising price.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2015, 03:18:49 PM
Agreed, starting point?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hotrod316 on May 25, 2015, 03:39:26 PM
glenn,

 set your price there is a butt for ever car they do   
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Totally T on May 25, 2015, 08:15:38 PM
Glenn, Get ahold of Shorty...he is the master at doing what you need to do and can help.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 25, 2015, 08:18:06 PM
Glenn, Get ahold of Shorty...he is the master at doing what you need to do and can help.
Contact information?

This is taking on a life of it's own.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 26, 2015, 07:38:33 AM
I started to put an ad together, very sad time.

What information have I left out that should be there?


Dragster
   Roo Man built
See the build here from the first tube to the last paint spray, to passes down the track
http://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/2010-front-engine-dragster
Currently running in the NDRL series in an 8.0 index
   IHRA certified Specification 2.2 Professional through 04/23/2016
NHRA certified 6.00 and slower valid through 05/07/2016
Strange rear end, gun drilled axles
Wilwood Brakes
Cold Fire fire system from
Torsion front suspension
Strange steering Box
Full body custom hand formed aluminum
Custom paint job (note this dragster has been in shows and won awards, it was / is used for active racing and the paint has scratches and pebble dents.)
New rear tires last year
Engine
   Pontiac
      See the multiple rebuilds for more power here. http://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/1978-pontiac-fire-bird/1978-pontiac-firebird-winter-projects-part-2
400 Pontiac ram air III block 1970
Deck 10.240
Stroke 4.000
Head Gasket 4.200 Bore/ .043 Thick
Scraper
Kauffman lifter valley brace
Milodon 13900 Timing Gear Drive (Single idler)
Custom Ford Crank Hub from RCD Engineering
Intake      Modified BDS Blower Intake
Ignition   MSD AL6-2 (there are two complete setups)
Crankshaft   RPM-455A400C 4340
light weight (70 pounds)
Forged
Nitrided
Pontiac 400 3.00 Main 4.00 stroke GM Rod Journals
Purchased Engle Roller cam
   Solid Roller Copper struck custom grind EX4 intake / EX6 Exhaust

Custom built Venolia pistons and aluminum rods.
Pistons:  4.155 Bore
   .990 Pin/Supply Pins & Spiro Locks
   2.200 intake notch/ 1.750 Exhaust notch
   15cc Dish Includes Valve Notches
   10.5 Comp. for Blown Alcohal
   1.605 Compression Distance
Aluminum Rods:
   Big Block Chevy Big End and Pin Bore
   6.635 Center – Center
   -.010 Aluminum

Kauffman heads    High Port
64 CC,
2.200 intake, 1.750 exhaust,
titanium retainers,
10 degree locks,
h-11 springs. (Solid roller cam)
380 CFM port work,
1200 series Ferrrea valves. 
ARP High Port head stud kit.
ARP Rocker arm studs and a girdle.


      Only thing left stock is the block
      Professionally built by Matt Shaff of Per-formace Specialties
Blower    New Littlefield stripped anodized 8-71 blower
Bird Catcher
injector hat
Kauffman heads 74 CC head, 325CFM Port, 2.11/1.77 valve arrangement, Titanium retainers, H-11 springs and 600 series valves
Engle solid lifter cam
      Mechanical fuel injection (tune-up by Spud Miller, Fuel Injection Enterprise)
50 runs on this rebuild, new mains and rod bearing installed of the winter for the new season
      Aluminum rods and pistons by
New parts not used, Heads, Pistons, Rods, Roller cam (you would need a new block as I was going to build a short stroke smaller displacement motor to rev higher and make more use of the blower) Kauffman heads    High Port
64 CC, 2.200 intake, 1.750 exhaust, titanium retainers, 10 degree locks, h-11 springs. (Solid roller cam) 380 CFM port work, 1200 series Ferrrea valves.  ARP High Port head stud kit.
ARP Rocker arm studs and a girdle.
 Extra parts Moon Front Timing Chain Cover for dual drive for Mag and Pump, Enderle front Offset dual drive, Mallory Super III Magneto (rebuilt by Spud Miller)
Transmission
   Reid case
   PowerGlide Transmission
   Built by Rutland Transmission Service, 4415 Spring Stuebner Rd., Spring, TX 77389
   See the build here http://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/2010-front-engine-dragster/2010-front-engine-dragster-week-2009-12-26

Trailer
   Custom built
   Inside is metal lined, custom light fixtures
   L shaped lower cabinet with generator storage, Upper cabinets
   Honda generator
   Air compressor
   5000 super winch
   A/C
   New brakes (drums, backing plates, shoes, electric brake on all four wheels.
   E load rage tires
   Outside lights
   Front storage compartment on the tongue
   1 ½ inch thick flooring
   Metal sheathing on the underside (plywood is not exposed to the elements
   Under coated by Z-Berit
   5 fuel jugs
   Yellow top battery, with built in trickle charger
   25 foot flag pole
   Weather Station
Tow vehicle
   Big Red Honda three wheeler

Complete, tow it to the track and go racing not missing anything. Will pass anyone’s tech inspection. All certifications are up to date.

      
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Totally T on May 26, 2015, 06:55:27 PM
812-325-6303
raderracing1@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 27, 2015, 04:17:29 AM
812-325-6303
raderracing1@yahoo.com

I'll send an e-mail and see what he has to say. Thanks
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 27, 2015, 06:05:51 PM
The Crew Chief got on my case and  I am finally getting the lead out and getting ready for NDRL second race of the season at the Hot Rod Reunion in Bowling Green.

I work from the rear to the front until it is done.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 29, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
Engine is primed

(http://nostalgiadragleague.proboards.com/attachment/download/499)

Distributor is set, new plugs cowl is mounted.

(http://nostalgiadragleague.proboards.com/attachment/download/500)

next is the coolant system and battery

(http://nostalgiadragleague.proboards.com/attachment/download/501)

Battery is in and the start of the rebuild of the coolant system, it goes without saying a wrench is put on each bolt as I go from the rear to the front

(http://nostalgiadragleague.proboards.com/attachment/download/502)

Diaper and belly pan have been installed
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on June 13, 2015, 06:33:43 PM
I put together an ad

http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Dragster-ad.pdf (http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Dragster-ad.pdf)

Leaving for Bowling Green Monday!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: jspell on June 13, 2015, 06:46:38 PM
Nice work Glenn, good luck at BG!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on June 20, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
Well I let everyone down.

First Time trail I forgot to turn the air bottle on and had no second gear.

After that the Crew Chief (Anne) and the driver were on fire.

Had a .008 R/T on the second time trial

Won our first round.

Had a .018 R/T on the second round, even cars so got lane choice. Won.

Had a .014 R/T and got the by

Won our fourth round and now into the finals.

Last thing the crew chief said to me was you are running a 10.0 car.

This was in the dark, the idiot driver saw the other guys light and left 2 seconds early to give away the final!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: sknopp on June 23, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
Glenn, we thought you guys did a great job.  It was good seeing that great looking car in the finals and we were pulling for you.

Steve K.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on June 23, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Thanks, if only......

would have rather lost than give it away.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: LZ on June 24, 2015, 04:10:21 AM
Good job Glenn.  8)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 27, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
Dialed a 5.12 and ran a 5.126

https://youtu.be/4WLli_GpK6A (https://youtu.be/4WLli_GpK6A)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 16, 2015, 07:37:34 AM
Winter modifications start
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 16, 2016, 09:00:54 PM
So I went over to the Motor Home today to run it to charge the batteries and found that it had been broken into.

(http://www.irv2.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116579&d=1452902880)

I find no damage yet and I had removed everything when it was winterized.

I also found the trailer had been broken into. It is obvious that this happened a while ago as the cut marks in the hasp have rust in them (the lock hasp itself was rusted, I'm talking about the rust in the cut made by the bolt cutter).

(http://www.irv2.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116580&d=1452902880)

It seems to me that whoever did this was experienced as they did not try an cut the lock hasp (it is hardened steel).

Cabinets were open, but I had removed everything there also.

Suggestions on how to better secure these things are welcome.

I have come across some very expensive alrams $500 with monthly monitoring charges $20.00.

And very cheap ones.

I'm looking for an alarm that has

door open sensors
motion
shock
light flashing
LOUD alarm
keyless entry

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: probird on January 17, 2016, 10:05:29 AM
Dam thieves. I was thinking of something like an alarm with a hidden switch on my trailer.
You would think with the technology of today, there would be an inexpensive alarm that would dial your phone when set off.
Hmmmm internet search time.
Quick look on Utube and this fellow has a good setup on his trailer.
https://youtu.be/-AzenSPDJqE
you could even get one of those alarms that notify your phone!
more looking.........
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 17, 2016, 11:28:11 AM
Thanks

I have actually watched this You Tube and was hoping to find something just a bid LOUDER and more sensitive, he actually has to rap quite hard to set it off.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 24, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
Below is the tentative Lever Family Racing Schedule.

You will note there is nothing in the month of June as we are planning a trip out west in that month. We might try and squeeze in something at Empire in that month before we leave.

Lever Family Racing
Schedule


May 6-7                      NDRL Championship Series              Gateway Motorsports Park
                                  Nostalgia Rendezvous                      700 Raceway Blvd.
                                                                                           Madison, IL 62060
                                                                                           http://www.gatewaymsp.com/     
                                                                           
July 15-16-17             NDRL Championship Series             Summit Motorsports Park
                                  Blue Suede Cruise                           1300 State Rt 18
                                                                                          Norwalk, OH 44857
                                                                                          http://summitmotorsportspark.com/

July 22-23-24             Empire gold Cup                              New York International Raceway Park
                                                                                         2011 New Rd
                                                                                         Leicester, New York 14481
                                                                                         http://www.nyirp.com/

August 26-27             NDRL Championship Series            Gateway Motorsports Park
                                  Hot August Nights                          700 Raceway Blvd.
                                  Street Car Super Nationals            Madison, IL 62060
                                                                                        http://www.gatewaymsp.com/     
   
September 09-10      NDRL Championship Series           US 131 Motorsports park
                                  Funny Car Nationals                     1249 12th Street
                                                                                       Martin, Michigan 49070
                                                                                       http://www.us131msp.com/

October 14-15-16     NDRL Championship Series           Beach Bend Raceway
                                 Goodguys Nostalgia Nationals     798 Beech Bend Road
                                                                                     Bowling Green, KY  42101     
                                                                                     http://www.beechbend.com/dragstrip.htm           
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 04, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
It has been a whirlwind here in the Lever household the last couple of days.

It all started with a trip to Matt’s shop to drop off some used oil. See the last entry under the biggest news.

BIG NEWS

I have contacted Dan of Dishon’s Transmissions, a contributor on my forum.
http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/
(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dishon-Transmissions.jpg)

He has agreed to build the Turbo 400 for Anne’s gasser.   


BIG NEWS

We had Paul Francia (Known as Uncle Paul) over. He was a wealth of knowledge.

He entered all the locations and pertinent information into his Four Bar program.  We learned that the bars needed to be set up completely different from what they were.

With the current set up, there is lots of adjustability to the instant center of gravity.

With the new configuration of the bars we have 98% Anti Squat.
   
(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Four-Bar-Setup.jpg)

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Four-Bar-Table.jpg)
 

THE BIGGEST NEWS

At Matt’s shop, I was introduced to Walter Cotturone who is also into Pontiac engines.

He informed me that Butler had a sale going on, on their aluminum block.

 (http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AllPontiac-aluminum-block.jpg)

$600.00 off was quite an enticement. I am currently at the limit of the stock cast iron block in the dragster and everyone knows what happens when you run at the limit.

It comes with keyed steel main caps studs and the outer bolts are splayed.

 (http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AllPontiac-aluminum-block-002.jpg)

I thought I had on hand all the internal components to build a 428 Pontiac blower engine.

So…we are off to the races, many phone calls, text messages, and e-mails later and we learned that we were not as close as we thought.

My Venolia Pistons will not work in the Aluminum block as they are for a 4.155 bore and the sleeves in the aluminum block start at 4.250 (pistons are too small).

Butler informed me their aluminum block comes machined for a 50MM cam so the cam I have will not work (but wait, read on). Upon questioning, it was found out that the drive shaft for the oil pump in the aluminum block is an inch longer than stock and costs $32.00.

Butler would not give us a deal for the purchase of two blocks together.

More phone calls.

So…I found out that Butler purchases from AllPontiac.com http://allpontiac.com/

I looked them up and called the number on the web site. I ended up talking with the owner Frank Gostyla.

Learned some more stuff.

1) The block comes as a dry deck; no holes for the water jacket in the block to the heads. There are extra ports in the water jacket from the block to allow running lines from those ports to the rear ports on the heads.  Or the deck can be drilled to allow normal water passage. Current thought is to retain the dry deck.

 (http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dry-Deck.jpg)

2) The freeze plugs in the side of the block are threaded and require a threaded plug.

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Freeze-Plug.jpg)

3) Frank was willing to work a deal for the purchase of two blocks. He gave us free shipping to a commercial address.  He included the drive shaft for the oil pump for free and he offers the aluminum blocks with either the stock bore for the cam or the 50MM bore for the roller cam bearings.

4) These blocks are not on the shelf, but currently being cast.  Lead time is currently 5 to 6 weeks.

5) So this phone call saved me having to buy a new cam, saved the shipping costs, and saved me the cost of the oil pump drive shaft. I did purchase the threaded plugs for the freeze plug holes for $85.00.  Yes, that is right.  We have purchased the aluminum block

6) Deal is done now.  We are in like Flint, right, just wait, are you kidding?  This is hard luck Glenn.

My internal parts were purchased a long time ago for a blower engine that never got built. So those parts have been on the shelf a long time. Now I’m going through them and learning their fitments.

In that process, I e-mailed RPM (the vendor of the crankshaft I have).  They sent me this information: “RPM P/N# DG3-455A400C is 4340 forged steel for 361-400 Pontiac with 4.0" stroke 3.00" MJ / 2.20" RJ ; External balance can hold up to 850hp.”


The thing to note is they say hold up to 850hp which will not work
.  We are looking for 1,000 HP with room to grow so that when ready we can move into Steve Walczak’s kingdom of 7.000
Their statement does not make sense when compared with the information on their web site which is:
“RPM International offers three distinct types of crankshafts—Cast, 4130/5140 Forged with Nitriding, and the SAE 4340 Forged with Nitriding, which is our top of the line.

SAE Certified 4340 forged material is used for superior strength and its proven performance in the aircraft and aerospace industries. For increased strength these cranks are given a second heat treatment after rough finishing and then nitride hardened eliminating any deformation after leaving the factory.”

As I have the 4340 crankshaft, how can it be rated for only 850 HP?  I asked that question and received this answer.

“This crank is the top level of 4340 Chrome-moly-nickel material we imported from overseas for years. They did the dyno testing there with 850hp @7000rpm from the original designed(sp) and it's the numbers which provided from the manufacturer. “
So right now it looks like the pistons absolutely will not work, the Crankshaft is not going to work, and Frank of AllPonitac says I should consider a longer rod to get a better rod length to stroke ratio.

Anyone want a complete brand new in the box rotating assembly (Venolia rods and Pistons RPM 4340 Crankshaft) for a 428 Pontiac?

MORE BIG NEWS

We have decided to move ahead. I have talked with Al of Freedom Racing Engines
http://freedomracingengines.com/ 
 
(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/fredom-racing-Engines.jpg)

out in Brownsburg, IN (same town Keith Burgan is from builder of the dragster).

Freedom Racing Engines is a supporter of NDRL the racing series that we race in.
http://www.nostalgiadragleague.com/

He has agreed to assemble the engine, look at all the misc parts and make a cohesive engine. This engine will easily put us into the 7.5 class with room to go to 7.0 and have the engine live a happy long life.



Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hotrodpete on February 05, 2016, 05:17:03 AM
Hi Glenn, its been a long time since I posted. Always a quick check to see whats up.
Nice purchase on the block . It looks great. A quick look at the block specs show bore size 4.120 and up.  Maybe your pistons could work, unless the longer rods change things.
 On a side note, snobusters swap in Hamburg is this weekend. It is more a social than anything for us. Nice to hear what got done over the winter.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 05, 2016, 06:17:04 AM
Hi Glenn, its been a long time since I posted. Always a quick check to see whats up.
Nice purchase on the block . It looks great. A quick look at the block specs show bore size 4.120 and up.  Maybe your pistons could work, unless the longer rods change things.
 On a side note, snobusters swap in Hamburg is this weekend. It is more a social than anything for us. Nice to hear what got done over the winter.

Where did you get the 4.120 number? I was told many different times by several different people block is delivered rough honed to 4.250 is
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on February 05, 2016, 06:35:10 AM
It shows it on the specs 4.120 - 4.400 bore, I took this off the web page listed in your post Glen


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Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 05, 2016, 07:55:04 AM
It shows it on the specs 4.120 - 4.400 bore, I took this off the web page listed in your post Glen


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That is the Cast Iron Block, not the aluminum unfortunately.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on February 05, 2016, 09:47:08 AM
Oops thanks for the clarification
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 05, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
Oops thanks for the clarification

I wish you had been right, would have saved me some money
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on February 05, 2016, 10:21:33 AM
Nice goodies Glenn, I'm looking forward to see your car in action again with the new power plant.

PS.: Since your sourcing car and engine from Indy, you may want to considering moving here and we'll be neighbors  ;)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: coupemerc on February 05, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Glenn, just a thought...you may want to find out if those sleeves are removable and Darton may make a sleeve that will get you to a smaller bore.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 05, 2016, 12:01:25 PM
Nice goodies Glenn, I'm looking forward to see your car in action again with the new power plant.

PS.: Since your sourcing car and engine from Indy, you may want to considering moving here and we'll be neighbors  ;)

When the dragster was built I commuted monthly for two years, I think the truck could almost drive there by itself

Glenn, just a thought...you may want to find out if those sleeves are removable and Darton may make a sleeve that will get you to a smaller bore.

Steel sleeves are hard to remove from an aluminum block.

The cost to do it out weights the cost of new pistons.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hotrodpete on February 06, 2016, 07:08:44 AM
Soory Glenn, I also went to their site and glanced at the info. Those details like reading the entire description get me again.
on another thought, your builder now has a clean slate to make the best combo he can.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on February 06, 2016, 07:23:17 AM
Not sure about that block,but never had issue getting sleeves out of  KB,JP-1 or TFX's.Have changed more than care to admit to and just swapped 8 out of TFX going from 4.25 to 4.310 and had a  set of them so cheaper than boring and waisting full set of 4.250's..
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 06, 2016, 07:42:23 AM
Not sure about that block,but never had issue getting sleeves out of  KB,JP-1 or TFX's.Have changed more than care to admit to and just swapped 8 out of TFX going from 4.25 to 4.310 and had a  set of them so cheaper than boring and waisting full set of 4.250's..

A number of sources have told me not to try an switch out the sleeves just to change piston size.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on February 06, 2016, 08:11:18 AM
Why not buy the cast iron version and save some $$$$? Sounds like the sleeved aluminum block isn't something you can easily service. My Dart iron stuff has been trouble free . The block is fully filled and run the heads without coolant. We are low buck operation running without a spare engine so durability and reliability are #1. I would love to have an all aluminum setup and save some weight but it isn't necessary or worth the extra cost.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 06, 2016, 09:50:54 AM
Why not buy the cast iron version and save some $$$$? Sounds like the sleeved aluminum block isn't something you can easily service. My Dart iron stuff has been trouble free . The block is fully filled and run the heads without coolant. We are low buck operation running without a spare engine so durability and reliability are #1. I would love to have an all aluminum setup and save some weight but it isn't necessary or worth the extra cost.

Weight
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on February 06, 2016, 05:58:50 PM
Power to weight . I understand that formula. I think we are probably in the 1.8-1.9 range .

Have fun with your project ! Warm weather is on the way . George


Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 06, 2016, 08:47:25 PM
With the difference in weight of the stock cast iron block to aluminum, lost of the coolant system including the water, going to a light weight battery, I need very little HP to get to 7.5
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on February 07, 2016, 10:55:46 AM
What do you think the weight savings will be ? 200# + ?

Wallace calculator=Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 1750 pounds and HP of 900 is 7.27 seconds and MPH of 185.88 MPH.

Is my guess on weight and HP for our deal. We haven't ran 1/4 but 1/8 best is 4.50 . 
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 07, 2016, 11:36:31 AM
What do you think the weight savings will be ? 200# + ?

Wallace calculator=Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 1750 pounds and HP of 900 is 7.27 seconds and MPH of 185.88 MPH.

Is my guess on weight and HP for our deal. We haven't ran 1/4 but 1/8 best is 4.50 .

I do not know the weight of the stock cast iron Pontiac block, but I know it is really really heavy. I believe 200#'s in savings is very Conservative.

I believe that with the aluminum block, ditching the coolant system and going to a light weight battery I could almost run 7.5 with the current HP.

With stepping up the HP I could easily run 7.0

Plan is to run one season at 7.5 and push the blower harder to run 7.0
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on February 07, 2016, 01:04:22 PM
Sounds like a plan! 2016 here we come!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 20, 2016, 06:12:57 PM
The block for the new engine for the dragster arrived today.

This is an all aluminum PONTIAC block from AllPontiac.com.

We plan on running 7.0 seconds in the 1/4 mile at about 190 MPH

For more detailed pictures see this link

http://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/2010-front-engine-dragster/progress-week-2016-05-20 (http://"http://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/2010-front-engine-dragster/progress-week-2016-05-20")

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSC_7957.jpg)

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSC_7958.jpg)

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSC_7948.jpg)

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSC_7946.jpg)

(http://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSC_7953.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: digster on May 20, 2016, 07:37:02 PM
Looks like Fort Knox Glen. Very nice piece!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 23, 2016, 07:20:46 PM
Today at Gold Cup

https://www.facebook.com/frank.dragotta/videos/10205731659604605/

The reason for sitting so long in the pre stage is I did not know it was a single
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on July 25, 2016, 08:44:49 AM
Nice, If you dont have somebody in front guiding you back, thats OK, but then you should back further behind the line and then drive forward into the beams, why take a chance on lining up crooked. The 5 feet behind the line is not enough to be possitive that you are straight.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 25, 2016, 09:35:41 AM
Nice, If you dont have somebody in front guiding you back, thats OK, but then you should back further behind the line and then drive forward into the beams, why take a chance on lining up crooked. The 5 feet behind the line is not enough to be possitive that you are straight.

It is just the two of us most times (my wife and I).

We have radios and she guides me back, works out really well.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 25, 2016, 09:27:30 PM
Well I'm keeping the streak alive, this is my year for disappointments

Out again in the first round.

We do have the tune up set though, we had lost it.

https://youtu.be/LrvD2dmMSS4
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on August 05, 2016, 08:33:00 AM
Glenn , noticed something on the 2nd TT, at the hit you dumped a lot of liquid out the "weed burners" right in front of the left tire----- NOT GOOD and it did appear that the car went left a little. 

   "ZOOMIES"
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 05, 2016, 12:35:21 PM
Glenn , noticed something on the 2nd TT, at the hit you dumped a lot of liquid out the "weed burners" right in front of the left tire----- NOT GOOD and it did appear that the car went left a little. 

   "ZOOMIES"

GOOD EYE.

I believe it to be fuel, not water.

I am using a MSD two step box and when sitting at the light on the transbrake I have the go pedal to the floor, but the MSD box is only allowing it to rev to 5,800.

If it were water it would continue to spit it out all the way down the track, but it does not, It clears up almost instantly after the launch.

If you listen very carefully you can also hear the engine clean up it's tone, almost sounds like a shift.

All of this will go away after this season with the new engine.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: dreracecar on August 05, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Liquid is liquid and underneath the tire at the hit is  No Bueno
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on August 05, 2016, 03:58:52 PM

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If you listen very carefully you can also hear the engine clean up it's tone, almost sounds like a shift.

All of this will go away after this season with the new engine.
[/quote]

Why will all of this go away with the new engine? Are you installing longer weed burners to get past the tire or zoomies? If your up against a rev limiter at the starting line you are going to spit out raw fuel
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on August 05, 2016, 05:47:00 PM
A sle would help the raw fuel deal. Keeping the BV shut some and system closer,plus it should pickup some 60' wise by being cleaner from the start.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 05, 2016, 08:36:55 PM
Liquid is liquid and underneath the tire at the hit is  No Bueno

You are right, been this way since day one, like the weed burners, going to live with it for the rest of the season. If you watch the video fuel is blown beyond the tires. Just an excuse, the current set up is bad and will be rectified with the new setup.

 

Why will all of this go away with the new engine? Are you installing longer weed burners to get past the tire or zoomies? If your up against a rev limiter at the starting line you are going to spit out raw fuel
I will not use a chip to set the RPM on the new setup. Have not finalized what I will be doing. Depends on if I want to design it so it is legal for Bakersfield. Two possible solutions, 1) use an air cylinder to open the throttle on the lunch (barrel valve would only be open far enough for launch RPM engine would not load up on fuel 2) use a detent in the peddle to “feel the correct RPM for launch. I have a freind that is doing that now and it works for him and is legal at Backersfield

 
A sle would help the raw fuel deal. Keeping the BV shut some and system closer,plus it should pickup some 60' wise by being cleaner from the start.

“sle” ?  Yes the sixty foot would be much better if the engine was not loaded up with fuel, once it is burnt off it takes off like a rocket. Sixty foots now at 1.22. the thing hauls at the top end.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Van on August 05, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
We run the Ford with a very clean idle & do not use the transbrake. Our 60ft's are 1.12 - 1.14 and this is with real bad tire shake. I use a very tight converter. I'm going to go with a 13 X 32  the 16 X 33 on the car now are just to big, I had them and ran them to just get a direction to go before I spent $.
 I have been running a unstriped low boost blower, now I will put on my good 871 & more overdrive with new tires. I have never felt the need to stage at any RPM other than idle with a blown car & our 60 ft. times have always been pretty good. Glenn have you tried leaving from idle ?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 06, 2016, 06:20:57 AM
We run the Ford with a very clean idle & do not use the transbrake. Our 60ft's are 1.12 - 1.14 and this is with real bad tire shake. I use a very tight converter. I'm going to go with a 13 X 32  the 16 X 33 on the car now are just to big, I had them and ran them to just get a direction to go before I spent $.
 I have been running a unstriped low boost blower, now I will put on my good 871 & more overdrive with new tires. I have never felt the need to stage at any RPM other than idle with a blown car & our 60 ft. times have always been pretty good. Glenn have you tried leaving from idle ?

Never do that (leave from idle). Even in my door car and foot braking I would launch above an idle. I could give it a try after I get a good qualifying round at the next race.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on August 18, 2016, 09:12:41 PM
For your Bakersfield air throttle controller are you planning on running NE1 7.60 index? The reason I ask if you are planning on 7.0 pro the throttle controller is not legal.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 19, 2016, 06:14:13 AM
For your Bakersfield air throttle controller are you planning on running NE1 7.60 index? The reason I ask if you are planning on 7.0 pro the throttle controller is not legal.

Yes, that is why I have the backup idea of the use a detent in the peddle to “feel the correct RPM for launch. I have a friend that is doing that now and it works for him and is legal at Backersfield.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on August 19, 2016, 06:40:02 AM
Yes as long as it is all controlled by the driver
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: 1000hpJohn on January 25, 2017, 05:27:19 PM
Glenn,
  Got to page 12 and it is like a Stephen King book minus the last 20 pages!!! :(
Any news on your new engine and plans for this year?  I run at Norwalk and Martin and will be attending more nostalgic events this year...
Hope all is well.

John
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 25, 2017, 08:44:01 PM
Actually the last page has not been written yet.

The new engine is in the machine shop but does not look like it will be ready until mid April. Many changes must be made to the dragster to run the new engine so for now it looks like it will be done this winter, but not run until next season (unless something drastic happens).

The current engine has been pulled and is n the machine shop to be freshened up. We are putting billet caps in it and with the mid plate, valley brace, billet caps, ram air II block (no under cutting of the main webs) We believe it will stand up to another 250 HP (the nice thing about a blower) and will try running 7.5 this year.

I do have an update out on my web site.

https://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/2010-front-engine-dragster/2017-01-17-engine-cradle

Engine coming out

(https://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DSC_1509.jpg)

Engine in its new cradle at Freedom Racing Engines

(https://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DSC_1536.jpg)

Freedom Racing Engines.

(https://www.lever-family-racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DSC_1537.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 06, 2017, 08:55:29 PM
Ok, work has started in eeriest to put the dragster back together! The garage has been cleaned and all the junk that gathers when something sits has been moved away.

The decision has been made to run 8.0 again this year (we might still try and run 7.5 as we strengthen the engine to take more HP, and if we blow it up the 7.0 engine is sitting in the wings and is close to being finished). A tough decision. That means running in the same class as last year which combines 10.0, 9.5, 9.0, 8.5, and 8.0 Makes for a big class and worst yet when you come up against a slower vehicle you have to sit at the light while that car gets a head start down the track. Sitting there at the tree is really tough. We never ran another 8.0 vehicle all last year.

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Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 13, 2017, 09:07:02 PM
The rocker arms came in
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 10, 2017, 08:56:22 PM
Visited my new engine at Freedom Racing Engines this morning.

(https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p235x350/18341775_1838933083095581_5058445686749107750_n.jpg?oh=a9ee9fa2f038c04a8b79c253ec1afb9b&oe=597B48A5)

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Installed new seat belts in the dragster this afternoon, and then went to the track (Indianapolis).

Jack came by and re-certified the dragster chassis, good for another 3 years.

Checked with Al on the breaking the refreshed engine. He said we were good to go.

Made our first pass of the season Ran a 7.98 with a .076 reaction time on the first pass.

I invited Keith Burgan to take the second pass. He was grinning ear to ear when he got back to the pits.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: JeffV8 on May 11, 2017, 03:26:24 AM
What was Keith's pass??
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: rooman on May 11, 2017, 08:38:23 AM
Jeff,
      I only ran 8.454 although it did run 166.27 mph. Glenn is about 3" longer in the legs than me and my ankle was at an awkward angle trying to hold the gas pedal down. At the step it tried to knock my foot off the pedal and i lost a little time there. The car is awesome in the back half as it has loads of torque and just keeps pulling all the way to the lights. Thanks once more to Glenn and Anne for letting me play with their car.

Roo
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hemidakota on May 11, 2017, 12:19:17 PM
Glenn can I see better pics of the hole in your garage wall so dragster will fit. Seems I have seen it on here before. Thanks.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 11, 2017, 02:14:08 PM
Glenn can I see better pics of the hole in your garage wall so dragster will fit. Seems I have seen it on here before. Thanks.

I will take some pictures when I get back home, currently in the pits at Gateway.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 23, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
So the final points are out in my racing series.

Even with our poor showing in the last three races we ended up third in the over all points.

Interesting enough the Pro Comp race class had a bunch of people close together at the the top, while the other class appeared to have some spacing between the top ten finishers. Not sure why or what it means.

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Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on November 22, 2017, 07:25:43 AM
New engine is getting closer, supposed to go on the dyno next week.

(http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=468346&d=1511363859)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: hemidakota on November 22, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
VERY NICE
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: arush on November 22, 2017, 07:11:44 PM
Very impressive.  You've come a lone way Glenn.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on November 22, 2017, 08:31:38 PM
Expect to spend the next year learning more too.

Afraid of the dreaded tire shake.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on November 22, 2017, 08:57:00 PM
Afraid of the dreaded tire shake.

It only hurts until the pain goes away  :o

But looks like a nice piece
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 17, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
Well we had a gathering of the faithful, even with the date change.

The Dragster has been successfully moved from the trailer to the garage. This is the first step of the engine swap to let us run with the big boys.

Someone once said that it did not happen unless there is video. See below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaiexB-uaZg
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 20, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
The next installment of the engine swap in the dragster has been released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS9zLNTgQiQ

If you like these videos and they are keeping you entertained in these dreary winter months it would help me on YouTube if you would click the thumbs up icon just below the lower right corner of the video and subscribing helps even more.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 22, 2018, 08:41:14 PM
BIG NEWS, another installment of the Dragster Engine Swap has just appeared in the cloud and can be seen at this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWnJlKS3cRk
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 26, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
The engine has been posted for sale on Racing Junk at this link.
https://www.racingjunk.com/Other/182995742/Pontiac-Ram-Air-III-Dragster-Engine.html#1

The reassembly of the engine after being removed from the dragster can be seen at this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOQbrjcSFI
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 30, 2018, 08:56:26 PM
I really screwed up the video of the Car Nuts meeting this Saturday. We did test fit the engine in the dragster, there are fitment issues, but they can be overcome. We committed the egregious sin of painting the aluminum block. The only concern I really have about it is heat transfer. It might take longer to cool the block of between rounds. Below is the link to the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9odumsQAGA







Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: ricardo1967 on January 30, 2018, 09:21:43 PM
I'm fan of your videos Glenn. Also like the pace and tone of your narration  8)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on January 31, 2018, 05:24:32 AM
I'm fan of your videos Glenn. Also like the pace and tone of your narration  8)

Thanks you.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 03, 2018, 11:04:50 PM
Here is the latest video in the dragster series.

In this video we address the fitment of the engine into the dragster chassis. The engine was not sitting flash to the midplate and that cannot be.

The first part of this video is more of a discussion of the problem then any actions taken to correct the problem, but after the first two minutes and thirty seconds of video the action starts!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tsPQajwFY

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on February 04, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
If we pull the engine we take it all . That is motor,midplate convertor ,transmission and the male side of the coupler. In the same way. Most of the wiring and cables run around the midplate in a notch on the starter side rather than thru it.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 04, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
If we pull the engine we take it all . That is motor,midplate convertor ,transmission and the male side of the coupler. In the same way. Most of the wiring and cables run around the midplate in a notch on the starter side rather than thru it.

I had not thought of that. I will have to look at the locations and accessibility of the bolts that hold the mid plate to the dragster.

A little change in pace.

In this video I show you a simple how to way to avoid the expensive Mylar protective sheets sold to protect the inside of the safety glass of your Sand Blast cabinet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4LQSvSlLE&list=PLCygmy1ErMthv5l9J2XYEUvEk9xRE7zij
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 11, 2018, 10:15:28 PM
I purchased some headers off Fee-Bay to use on the dyno.

Dyno is now done and it is time to try and pass them on.

These are Hedman Hustler racing headers that fit Ram Air IV and Edelbrock heads. 1967 thru 1969 Firebird.
Engine Size: 6.6L/400, 6.9L/421, 7.0L/428, 7.5L/455

They were poorly represented on Fee-Bay as to their condition so I need to clean them up.

Prior to this video I had sand blasted them and painted them to make them more presentable, something I would allow to be bolted onto the engine. 

This is the second pass at them to fix problems before I list them on Fee-Bay, here is the link to that project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJs2rCgZDKc

This is the link to the Fee-Bay listing
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222835032846?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 13, 2018, 02:17:46 PM
The engine I am selling has been written about on BangShift!

https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/pontiac-power-iron-block-iron-headed-blown-ram-air-iii-engine-ran-8-0s-dragster-ooga-booga/

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: denverflatheader on February 14, 2018, 08:31:08 AM
Glenn – well thought out comments by Brian.  Huge step up his “anvil” reference versus boat anchor.  With anvil you put the hammer to it and beat on it : )  You can tell by what he wrote he got soft spot for Pontiacs.  For $13K and new rebuild, certainly is attractive.  Would be nice alternate, the 1949 Gasser.  Alan

p.s.  Enjoyed seeing your videos; worthwhile and a lot of time to make.

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 14, 2018, 09:26:54 AM
I have an engine in the 49. a 454 chevy. the idea for the 49 is sometime in the future it will be left at the track between weekends and just be an easy vehicle to go racing with.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: fuel749 on February 15, 2018, 01:52:42 PM
I'm surprised the front motor plate mounting holes on that block would be that different.  I might have mocked the trans and coupler in to see how things looked.  Looks like things are coming along nice though.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 15, 2018, 04:45:03 PM
Front plate was original bolted between the water pump and the timing cahin cover. There is no water pump on the new engine. Plate is completely different.

Ordered a 16 volt battery and charger today. Will be ripping the whole wiring system out of the dragster and installing a new one next week.

Glenn Lever
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 16, 2018, 05:55:16 AM
Lots to report.

Ordered today the new 16 volt battery and charger.

Scheduled another Car Nuts meeting to pull out the old wiring harness and build a new battery tray.

Today's project is to fit and measure the straps for the blower restraint on the new engine in the front engine dragster. This evolved putting the blower on the new engine, removing the blower restraint off the old engine and putting it on the new engine so I could get an accurate measurement of the length of the straps to order the new blower restraint.

In that process I discovered two problems that will have to be addressed. One is the rear injectors interfere with the blower restraint plate as they are in a different location on the new engine. The other is the main fuel feed line to the distribution block also interferes with the blower restraint plate. These problems will have to be addressed at a later date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FpotdJW6wU
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 16, 2018, 07:42:48 PM
Another update. In the last video we found two problems with the Blower restraint and the the two rear injectors and the main fuel feed line. We address both problems in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8QqXECiiK0
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 18, 2018, 07:28:11 AM
An interesting thing about new build projects, presents arrive in the mail and for some reason, the bank account seems to decrease in size. Today some presents arrived.

This is an unboxing of the presents, a TurboStart S16V battery (16 volts) and CHG25A charger (for 16 volt batteries) for the Front Engine Dragster. The new engine in Front Engine Dragster has a mag in it. The engine has to turn over quicker when starting to energize the mag so the engine will start.

Although these do not have as many cranking amps as say a Yellow Top battery, the voltage difference more than makes up the difference.

The S16V battery has these specs. Weight 42 lbs, Dimensions 10.30 x 6.75 x 7.25 in, Voltage 16V, Cranking Amps 675, Cold Cranking Amps 595, Reserve Capacity 85

The CHG25A has these specs. Weight 24 lbs, Dimensions 11.125 x 8.625 x 7 in, Voltage 12V, 14V, 16V, Max Amps 25A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NtyB0L0js
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 20, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
Another video and another mistake.

Still looking for advice on how to make videos, I screwed up the end of this video, the camera really did not like the ceiling lights in back of me and made me very dark (at lest I turned the mic on this time).

In this video two things are accomplished. 1) a heavily painted heat duct grill is stripped and reconditioned to like new condition, 2) The Powder Coat process is shown and the advantages discussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSmVMr8PCc&list=PLCygmy1ErMthv5l9J2XYEUvEk9xRE7zij

I wrote up the Powder Coat process and presented the needed equipment equipment a DIY person would need on my web site, this is the link to that information https://www.lever-family-racing.com/powder-coat

Glenn Lever
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 23, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
Made mount for MDS Pro Mag 20 Points Box 8106, System 1 Remote Oil Filter For Front Engine Dragster.

In this video a mounting plate of 1/4 inch aluminum is cut and fitted to the bottom of the Front Engine Dragster. I need to mount to it the TurbStart 16 volt Battery, MSD Points Box 8106 for the MSD Pro Mag 20, and the System 1 remote oil filter. There is not a lot of room so this could be tricky.

The plate was completed but I ran out of time to show the actual mounting of the components and checking the height of the body.

In part 2 we will mount the body and check height clearances, cut the body to fit around the fuel pump, and powder coat the mounting plate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0-wq3W4k
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on February 27, 2018, 06:15:12 AM
This video is different from videos I have uploaded in the past.

We have a group of guys that get together on Saturday mornings, and call ourselves the car nuts. The meetings have been going on a long time now, and started on a 1970 SS El Camino, went from there to a 1978 Pontiac Trans Am drag car, and now on to the Front Engine Dragster.

This video is more about what happens when we get together than the project, although we do accomplish things.

I have been dreading cutting the body to fit around the fuel pump but today is the day. How the pump is orientated is dictated by the body and that dictates how the components will be mounted on the floor plates made in the last video.

I will be starting a new playlist that contains the Car Nut videos as they many not be as interesting to people that are not here on a Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuI05fxbV0s
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 01, 2018, 12:42:44 PM
How to restore an Intake Manifold, Powder coat, Recondition

 This is another how to video on Powder Coat, this time restoring two intake manifolds from a boat fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk5zVNwgXSo

This is the link to the Powder Coat article on my web site.
https://www.lever-family-racing.com/powder-coat
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 08, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
In this video we build a bracket for the Remote Oil Filter that goes into the Front Engine Dragster. Placement and the angle of the bracket were a challenge. I made several mistakes and the project fought me most of the way.

At the end I was pretty discussed with the final result, but it works and I have no time to build another on. The first race in May is fast approaching and there is still LOTS to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTtFUfe2dZ4
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on March 08, 2018, 01:36:24 PM
I didn’t think 7.0 Pro allowed 2 or 3 steps? Have you checked the rules
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 08, 2018, 02:26:53 PM
Yes, I have checked the rules.

I bought the three step as it was $10 more then the two step.

I will only be using two of the limiters, one for the trans-brake (launch) and the second for the high limit (engine over rev protection).

The third step could be used for the burn out, but as I someday would like to go to the March meet will not use it for the purpose.

Rules.
"ALL DELAY BOXES/THROTTLE STOP CONTROLLERS MUST BE REMOVED PRIOR TO QUALIFYING. If you are caught you will be disqualified from race event. All runs prior to that will be thrown out. Throttle stop cylinders may be left on car as long as air supply is removed and the device is disabled. THIS WILL BE POLICED IN THE LANES IF YOU HAVE ONE. Automatic shifters are allowed. Two step or three step rpm controllers are allowed, but only for the control of burnout, launch and maximum rpm. A Start Line Enhancer (SLE pneumatic cylinder) may be used in lieu of an electronic launch rpm control device, however it must be directly wired to the transbrake button and not the ignition box."

Just as a comment. I am disappointed that they allow "Automatic shifters". My feeling is the driver should initiate the shift.

Glenn Lever
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 11, 2018, 09:14:55 AM
This video started back on February 24, in the Car Nuts Meeting. At that time a conversation was held between Ken Long, Jim Boehly, and myself. In that conversation the new Control Cable Arm for the top of the Master Power Switch was discussed.

Jim took on the task of machining that arm from scratch. Without that arm, this project could not have been completed.

This video covers the creation of the bracket to hold the new switch, and positions it slightly forward of the original switch. By moving it forward the control lever in the cockpit is put into a better attitude, and provides more mechanical advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxOpuga3DM
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 18, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
In this video we located a place for and install the Points Box for the Mag, the Three Step box, the RPM Trigger box, the Tachometer Signal Generator and the battery into their finial locations.

In addition we route the oil lines for the remote System 1 oil filter and connect the filter. I will generate a separate video on how to connect the hoses to AN fittings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLAtQQxv198
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 20, 2018, 07:42:01 AM
In a couple of videos posted by -AN fitting sellers, they assemble these fittings very quickly and with ease. In one, in six minutes they assemble three different styles. It takes longer in the real world.

In this video I show what it really takes to assemble AN Fittings on Braided Hose . I cover the basics of cutting braided hose lines and installing -AN fittings on the ends of braided hose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RA8rV3E0CI

I also have the 101 basics on my web site at this link

https://www.lever-family-racing.com/lever-family-racing-home/family-vehicles/1978-pontiac-fire-bird/an-fitting-assembly

(http://www.irv2.com/attachments/photopost/data/1515/AN_Fitting_and_vise.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 24, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
Valve springs are too weak!

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Hopefully this is the final Engine install into the Front Engine Dragster

I believe this maybe the final time I put the engine into the Front Engine Dragster.

To do that the remote oil filter adapter must be bolted to the engine.

To do that -AN fittings need to be installed on the ends of new -10 hose.

I had intended to show the process of putting -AN fittings onto the hose in this video but it ran to long. I have done a separate video that shows that process, I put a card in the video at the appropriated point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40YeRtCGRL4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40YeRtCGRL4)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/29060023_2012769235711964_8836414887461934882_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeHnU5q5QzXxL1kIWM0nAYK5RNNSgGNlxlzar_P2VpIxFnf2K18uwGM1dCwjL83ZIxcAxP6cTQ65s2dhI-fr6t2svrv1a-bLNrONSOLeqmUKYQ&oh=de6724519f11c4f5d72bfdf0268ebadb&oe=5B301E92)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 26, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
NOTE...I state in the video that I do not know as much as I should and it comes through in the video. I'm also pretty tired. There is a major flaw in the comparison of the normal linkage and the Click-Fast, but it is still a great addition to tune up tools. The hex link has right and left hand threads for very fine adjustments.  But the click-fast allows you to make adjustments without having to carry two wrenches with you.

Put the Blower onto the Front Engine Dragster / Discussion on A/F mixture at idle with Click-Fast adjustment device (second half of the video).

We install the Blower on the Pontiac engine in the front Engine Dragster.

I give a small discussion on Air Fuel mixture and it's importance.

I describe a product called Click-Fast (I have no affiliation other than I am using the item) and it's impact on setting up the engine to idle smoothly.

The contact information for the guy that makes these devices is Mr. Ray Hadford,

He can be reached through his e-mail address at rayhadford@frontier.com or if you are courteous of his time zone (Pacific Standard Time)  (425)238-3235

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBWV4hghHI
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 27, 2018, 05:59:52 AM
A great Tuning Tool for the dragstrip

This video introduces a tuning tool that was introduced to me. I found it very helpful and thought I would pass the information on.

This is the contact information for the person that sells the device;
Mr. Ray Hadford
rayhadford@frontier.com
Pacific Standard Time (425) 238-3235

I was not paid or compensated in any way to present this information, just thought it was a good device and am passing the information on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xp99PKLNHA&list=PLCygmy1ErMthv5l9J2XYEUvEk9xRE7zij
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on March 27, 2018, 11:54:22 AM
Glen,

Be glad its roots blower.Screw blower weighs about dbl.My old whipple was 142# blower only. Tip if you need to change idle each 1/8 pipe plug in hat is worth 250 rpm or close to it.That way you change idle speed w/o changing mixture.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 27, 2018, 01:23:49 PM
I do not understand 1/8 inch plug?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: jeff/21 on March 27, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
I don't understand the 1/8 pipe plug reference
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: noslin on March 27, 2018, 04:29:14 PM
thank you for the videos, it helped me understand a few things; especially not having done this before.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on March 27, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
most hats have extra hole or two.They are plugged off with 1/8 pipe plug.Remove one pulg and idle will gain 200 to 300 rpm. as said it just makes simpler since you do not have to readjust BV. Most setups stay pretty close except when good change in  Correct altitude causes idle to change. If hats is off and has no holes with plugs is pretty simple to set up cpl holes and plug them till needed.

 While I'm giving tips. You can also use holes to keep check on blower. Pull one plug and use to check vacuum on fresh blower. Record number.Check every so often,if idles is same it should read same,if down blower is falling off and probably needs stripping. Not big deal on most of stuff guys here are running but if your running headsup where power is king then blower is number one piece needed to get max out of it,well according to some old guy named Newberry. Then what does he know about blown alky stuff.LOL
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 27, 2018, 09:06:28 PM
most hats have extra hole or two.They are plugged off with 1/8 pipe plug.Remove one pulg and idle will gain 200 to 300 rpm. as said it just makes simpler since you do not have to readjust BV. Most setups stay pretty close except when good change in  Correct altitude causes idle to change. If hats is off and has no holes with plugs is pretty simple to set up cpl holes and plug them till needed.

 While I'm giving tips. You can also use holes to keep check on blower. Pull one plug and use to check vacuum on fresh blower. Record number.Check every so often,if idles is same it should read same,if down blower is falling off and probably needs stripping. Not big deal on most of stuff guys here are running but if your running headsup where power is king then blower is number one piece needed to get max out of it,well according to some old guy named Newberry. Then what does he know about blown alky stuff.LOL

Got it, thanks, check blower performance, if it is falling off (strips being worn), with vacuum is a good tip.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on March 27, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
thank you for the videos, it helped me understand a few things; especially not having done this before.

The next one is going to take some time and should be interesting (spoiler, Seat pressure is not high enough so the valve springs need to be replace, will talk about spring bind, clearance, etc  I have to say I have had quite an education over the last week)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 03, 2018, 06:07:27 AM
We have a two part video project this time!

Part 1 Of installing the transmission into the Front Engine Dragster

This video contains the modifications needed to make the flex plate work to install the transmission into the Front Engine Dragster.

There is a link at the end of this video to the second video.

The mounting holes needed to be opened up to except the bolts, to bolt the flex plate to the crankshaft.

We run a six bolt torque converter, so the flex plate had to be drilled to accept the new bolt pattern of the torque converter.

We did a better job than the professional transmission shop that did it the last time.

There is a link at the end of part one to part two.

Part 2 Of installing the transmission into the Front Engine Dragster

This project ran long so I have broken up into two easy to watch video (I think).

In this video the front seal in the transmission removed and replaced, the torque converter is installed in the transmission, and finally the transmission is installed into the front engine dragster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0Hos5J2Xk&index=1&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 09, 2018, 01:24:19 PM
In this video we will remove an old valve spring from a head, determine valve spring install height, install the needed shims, and install the new valve spring while the head is still bolted to the engine.

We will then test out calculations by measuring seat pressure with the valve spring installed.

It was pointed out to me that the springs I had installed on the new engine in the Front Engine Dragster did not have enough seat pressure for my expected top end RPM of 7,800.

What to do? My mentor, Steve Walczak, found a set of Comp Cam springs (#996) that were a good compromise between seat pressure and open pressure with the lift that I have.

My valves are relatively small, and light, so I can get away with a little lighter seat pressure. I will be shooting for around 338 pounds of force at close and just under 800 open.

I have a strong valve train, a copper struck solid roller cam (Engle), .135 thickness push rod walls (Trend), Shaft mounted Crower rocker arms. So…..it should stand up to these pressures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dMldzy-768&t=4s
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 11, 2018, 06:34:58 AM
Modify and install the Coupler Driveshaft into the Front Engine Dragster

In this video we modify the coupler between the transmission and rear end to accept two additional locking collars.

There is no universal joint in the drive train of a Front Engine Dragster. A coupler takes it's place.

There was an incident in our racing series last year when on came loose and did some damage. I would like to try and avoid that kind of excitement, so we are doubling up on the locking collars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIIQFJJh5sY
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: DON on April 12, 2018, 06:56:54 AM
Glen,couldn't you have used split shaft collars  and not cut shaft ?
      DON
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 16, 2018, 04:51:07 PM
Glen,couldn't you have used split shaft collars  and not cut shaft ?
      DON

There was no area for the split collar to tighten up on. Cutting the driveshaft, although nerve racking had no unwanted side effects.

No, wiring, say it isn't so

Wiring, Here we go, This is the "Brains"?

I did not complete a project this week.

Thought I would just put up a progress report.

Drew up a circuit diagram for the Points box, 3-step, RPM Signal Generator, and RPM Switch.

Actually turned some screws, or in this case crimped some wires.

Learned that I need a magnifying glass in order to read the numbers on the back of Deutsch Connectors.

It would be nice to be able to report at the end of next week that the wiring is done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikMMt1E3G0
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 20, 2018, 07:13:17 AM
In this video there is an Intro into how to create battery terminal ends.

To do the battery cable ends on the Dragster (and the 49 at some point) I bought an intermediate terminal crimping tool. It failed to hold the crimp and did not have a good enough selection of dies to go one step smaller.

This tool had more dies, and a better selection of dies in the range I needed (once I knew what I needed), and was much cheaper, harbor freight cheap.

Interestingly there was no company name on the box or the one page of specifications.

There was a label on the pump “YQK 300” which when Googled brings up a list of resellers (E-Bay, Amazon, etc.)

I believe it will sever it’s propose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJWZVNMd8No
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on April 22, 2018, 07:26:13 PM
Deutsch Connectors, Assembly Instructions, Disassembly, Crimp Tool

In this, "How To video", I talk about Deutsch Connectors.

I Assemble and Disassemble, the new to me Deutsch connectors.

Up to now I have used Weather Pack Connectors.

I think I like the new Deutsch Connectors better, with the exception:
1) That everything is smaller, harder for these fat fingers to maneuver the small parts
2) Harder for these old eyes to see the numbers on the backs of the connectors and to thread the wire into the connector.

I do like the positive feeling of the connections, and will be making the switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzc4mtFmmHo&t=21s
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 02, 2018, 07:35:32 PM
In this video I show how I have been making the battery /starter cables for the Front Engine Dragster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFzhOiRtLKQ&list=PLCygmy1ErMthv5l9J2XYEUvEk9xRE7zij
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 03, 2018, 05:02:29 PM
Quick Dragster Update 2018 05 03

Just a look, a real update this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpozu6LoO08&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 08, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Dragster Update – Custom Belt Guard -- 2018 05 08

This video shows the build of a blower belt guard from scratch. The steps required, the skills, the effort and the finished product.

I asked my son, who is a very talented fabricator, to create the belt guard. What my son made is well beyond my capability.

Hope you enjoy watching this as much as I enjoyed seeing the process evolve to the finished product.

I know it is long, but I think the content makes it worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJvaVPPaAo
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: denverflatheader on May 18, 2018, 07:47:29 AM
Glenn – enjoyed watching your latest video.  Very nice custom piece, and pleased to see your son displaying a few of his hidden talents.  Taking extra time to share the little details and thought process does make your videos better.  Mirror polishing 6061 in a white t-shirt, "yes” I was impressed; as messy as that job is, sure makes one-of-a-kind parts pretty. 

You said at the end of the video “it looks like it belongs there,” I agree.  Another reason is when looking at your engine, the new belt guard does not attract attention, it vanishes.  That takes talent to accomplish.  You have to point it out to a viewer which provides occasion to tell a story.  Alan

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 22, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
Front Engine Dragster Update, Starter Cables

Yes, it is true, I have hurt my back and the ground is now a long way away and hard to get to. I do have a couple of short segments that were meant to go into one update that I will now split up into small tantalizing clips (I hope).

At least there will be no 30 minute videos for awhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZd8r-WX6M&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ&index=26&t=0s
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on June 03, 2018, 11:14:03 AM
Car Nuts 06 02 2018 move the 49 Chevrolet Gasser into the trailer.

In this Car Nuts meeting we moved the 1949 Chevrolet from the garage, into the trailer. Might seem like a simple task but my driveway has quite a slope, there is no winch in the trailer, yet, and the steering and brakes are not connected.

I had sworn I would not do this until some progress was made on the Gasser. My son is the only one that worked on the Gasser while it was in the garage.

We will get back to it, but I needed room for the Jeep (as it remains roofless and door-less throughout the whole summer).

It is my summer daily driver.

My back is doing better and we intend to make good progress on the dragster this week, so watch for an update next week.

We will not make the Bowling Green race, but will make every effort to make the Norwalk (Blue Suede Cruise) race!

Next Car Nuts meeting feel free to stop by, if you want on the mailing lest send me a message with your e-mail address (Private Message).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9H9wj2KEY&list=PLCygmy1ErMtjS61G_eL5KrhKHrmxE5C3l
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 02, 2018, 08:40:51 PM
Another chopped up rushed
video as we just have no time left.

First fire up of the new
engine, and we attract attention we could do without.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9bQ8ygM17s&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: racerken on July 03, 2018, 01:54:29 PM
I had a neighbor that did the same thing.  I was like you, very seldom started the car, always during the day and only when absolutely necessary.   Cop would come out and apologize for coming out but said he had to follow up on complaint.  I probably didn't start the car more than 6 times in 2 years.  It aggravated her so much that she couldn't do anything about it that she finally sold her house and moved.   
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: wideopen231 on July 03, 2018, 07:52:07 PM
Had a neighbor like that. Like Gleen we fired car cpl times a year at shop.This one evening(before 9 pm) we had trouble with trans mission and had fired car 3 times maybe minute each. He came over and complained.  Then 3 months later came over while I was cleaning deer and asked if we had any extra deer meat. Want to guess the answer?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on July 03, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
If I had neighbors like me that I would start my car more often!!!
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on July 07, 2018, 07:33:06 PM
Dragster Update 07 07 2018

Another chopped up video from pieces.

We are essentially out of time. Leaving for Norwalk to get it down the track on Wednesday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRvhKS0_gI&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 18, 2018, 05:41:48 AM
Dragster update. It is broke. After testing we saw in the data that it
was misfiring in the upper RPM. Randy of RPM performance suggested one
of the magnets in the degree wheel might be weak. We went to turn it
over by hand to check the magnets and found that the engine will only
turn over so far and then come up solid against something. We are in the
middle of preparing for a move so time is really precious, I hope, with
the help of Steve Walczak,
to do some investigation next week. (Pistons go up and down, valves go
up and down, converter bolts are tight, blower turns freely)) Al Robins
has suggested removing the rockers and trying again, we will also pull
the pump drive. After that the pan comes off. .
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: JrFuel Hayden on August 18, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
check your cam belt drive, we had the same results as you, when we lost a couple of teeth on the belt.
Jessel says to replace the belt every time you have a "incedent" with the motor. The teeth got fractured when we kicked a rod out, when the trans broke and the engine went to 12K.
Good Luck !
Jon
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 18, 2018, 01:22:22 PM
We have a gear drive, but is on the list of things to check when we pull the front drive.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: gregm784 on August 20, 2018, 11:16:36 AM
I change my belt when i change my rods.  2 years, 100 'ish runs.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 20, 2018, 01:16:13 PM
Steve Walczak, Gary O ’corner, and myself worked on the dragster from noon to four today, pulled the front drive, no result, pulled the pan, cannot get it all the way off in the dragster because of the pickup tube. All looks good though, rods have movement side to side. Pulled the rockers, no result, can only get five of the six torque converter bolts out because the engine locks up in a spot where we cannot get to the last bolt to remove it. No result. Next step is to pull the transmission. Maybe later tonight.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 21, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
Transmission is out, not the problem, pulled the engine, pulled the front cover, not the problem, pulled the pan, not the problem, pulled the heads. Found this. Have no idea what or how it got there. I have two screens in the injector hat, I have weed burner exhausts (they point down not up), the intake is in tack, no pieces missing, I need to turn the blower (brand new seven runs on it) upside down to see if I can see anything.,

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Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on August 21, 2018, 03:23:35 PM
Looks like it didn’t do to much damage.  Do you run a screen under you hat?  I do on my car and I have found ssome stuff that I am glad it caught!! Not sure how it got in there either I found a 1/2” nut until there once!!! Not sure if I can issue someone off or it just flew up off the track
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 21, 2018, 04:06:04 PM
Looks like it didn’t do to much damage.  Do you run a screen under you hat?  I do on my car and I have found ssome stuff that I am glad it caught!! Not sure how it got in there either I found a 1/2” nut until there once!!! Not sure if I can issue someone off or it just flew up off the track

I run two screens, one on top of the restraint plate and a second on the bottom side
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Paul New on August 21, 2018, 07:34:46 PM
Must be something left inside
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: George on August 21, 2018, 07:47:00 PM
Must be something left inside
Agree.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 21, 2018, 09:07:10 PM
Actually I am starting to believe it is a plug that came out of the end of one of the blower vanes. This is not my blower.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39876062_2029472223770710_8393131249102749696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3a08959aa2c5ee4ae9d46fb080bd0e7e&oe=5BFDAE09)

There is a recess where it could come out, this is my blower

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39872735_2137632236558996_8154392786125193216_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=bc2f98434e505240577897ecf7528a00&oe=5C38B4F0)

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 26, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
Update 08 25 2018 Dragster / Moving
Yes, we are moving and it will affect the number of videos produced in the near future in a negative way (less of them), in the far future there will be MORE videos and they will be more diverse.

In this video we talk about the move and the current status of the dragster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIr8w74oD4M&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: opa1 on August 27, 2018, 06:56:56 AM
Congrats on the new place! Looks really nice. You'll have more room and can fire up the dragster without the po-po coming to visit. :)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 27, 2018, 12:22:18 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: denverflatheader on August 28, 2018, 12:19:53 PM
Glenn - very exciting.  After 21 years it's difficult to leave a home with memories and plus you have much invested, yet I'm very happy for you and your wife's new adventure.  The new workshop is huge, and may I add "doing a 60' burnout indoors is something you will remember forever" not that I'm suggesting it : )  Alan
 
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on August 28, 2018, 12:57:24 PM
Glenn - very exciting.  After 21 years it's difficult to leave a home with memories and plus you have much invested, yet I'm very happy for you and your wife's new adventure.  The new workshop is huge, and may I add "doing a 60' burnout indoors is something you will remember forever" not that I'm suggesting it : )  Alan

 :)
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 10, 2018, 06:51:15 PM
Dragster Update 09 06 2018

First off, Steve thanks for your help once again.

In this video, we install a converter to step down the voltage out of the 16 volt Turbo Start battery to 12 volts. This was done to run the filament bulbs on 12 volts so they would not be very bright and hot.

This allowed us to remove the small trailer break away battery we were using and install a fuel primer pump in that location.

We also started the engine for the first time after the latest rebuild. Set the timing on the mag and the crank pickup.

Once the engine was hot we were able to set the valve lash (this is an aluminum block and also has aluminum heads).

Another mystery was discovered, which we do not have a clear answer to. Your input on that mystery is welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfDRVJGSyOo&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ

Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: BK on September 11, 2018, 06:31:39 AM
Trash was probably in the tank. Seams like every time my tank dries out more chips show up.
If you haven't moved that shelf yet I have some foam that will help.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 11, 2018, 11:30:36 AM
Trash was probably in the tank. Seams like every time my tank dries out more chips show up.
If you haven't moved that shelf yet I have some foam that will help.

Shelf?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: BK on September 11, 2018, 05:46:07 PM
Trash was probably in the tank. Seams like every time my tank dries out more chips show up.
If you haven't moved that shelf yet I have some foam that will help.

Shelf?
What you hit your head on at the end of the video.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on September 11, 2018, 06:09:38 PM
Trash was probably in the tank. Seams like every time my tank dries out more chips show up.
If you haven't moved that shelf yet I have some foam that will help.

Shelf?
What you hit your head on at the end of the video.

Sold the house.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 13, 2018, 03:56:16 PM
The Big Move to Macedon, the reason for my absence.

This is a little rough, it will give you an idea of why I have been absent.

We have moved from our home of 20 years to a new home with LOTS of projects to video tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Cm4NzG-_U&list=PLCygmy1ErMtgrgivbqftRbvJKBchkhzwe


Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: denverflatheader on October 14, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
Glenn – “welcome back and welcome home” the property makes moving around plus organizing much easier compared to the prior place; for all your stuff, that’s superb.  It’s easy to follow along in the video your thought process for making improvements.  The Case will mostly pay for itself the moment you have finished digging 36” down and backfilling that trench line.  A cubic yard of dirt weighs just over a ton, more if it’s wet.  Alan
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 14, 2018, 08:41:16 AM
Thanks, I will keep you updated on the progress.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on October 19, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
The Trench to the Barn, Power to the shop, even water

Not sure how to make digging a trench and putting a water pipe and conduit (for power for the shop) into to it interesting.

This is the start of the conversion of the brown barn into my new SHOP!.
I have to start somewhere.

More videos to follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pXJSKA-qmQ&list=PLCygmy1ErMtjrC5Y0YYTiJ0HF6cYnmbTr
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on November 13, 2018, 03:48:44 PM
I know it is not an exciting video, but what to keep you updated on the progress in the new work shop.

https://youtu.be/ZdKPvmEYru8
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on November 22, 2018, 06:05:00 AM
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Power to the SHOP!!!!!

In this video the conduit that was laid in the trench is used to run power from the house to the Shop!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRtxGWWog5U&list=PLCygmy1ErMtjrC5Y0YYTiJ0HF6cYnmbTr
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 14, 2019, 07:15:05 PM
2010 Front Engine Dragster and Trailer walk around

There are separate build pages for both these vehicles on my web site.

Current date is 05/14/2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReFJx_4sA2o&list=PLCygmy1ErMthsLzG_jWBEt8iqd4rYh7MQ

It may be time?????
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: Oldboy on May 15, 2019, 12:22:15 PM
Nice trailer Glenn. I haven't noticed the catch can on the fuel tank vents before, did you have a problem with spillage ?
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: GlennLever on May 15, 2019, 01:25:44 PM
Yes sir, on every burn out.
Title: Re: Glenn's dragster thread
Post by: masracingtd1167 on May 17, 2019, 01:58:55 PM
Glen June 2nd 7.0 Pro at Lebanon !