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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 20, 2013, 07:50:38 PM »
idea od what it will look like with body.Man if you could weld this poster board stuff.Cheap and lite weight.Might seem stupid but Im not Roo Man I have to make patterns from cardboard or in this case poster board then I have idea what it will take sheetmetal wise.


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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 20, 2013, 01:11:58 PM »
Right now the setup is 29" from front edge of wing to back of cage and its 26" above cage. I can come foward I could not go higher if wanted to according to rules for wing on alky dragster and probably fuel.Although no ru;e for having oner on FED I figure if I build to spec I have better chance of getting to run it at event.If not allowe its 4   3/8 bolts to remove it. wing will be 40"x 12 to 14" the cord width is 2",I have a pattern thats 1.5" thick which I like but not sure how much down force it would have with shorter bottom.Since down force comes from the air seperating at front and the bottom has to move faster to rejoin the air on to suface at rear of wing.It would seem a shorter bottom surface would have less downforce,but also less drag.

  Struts seem to be little over 60" and 15 -3/8 spread since it was common on lot of aftermarket wings.Only need about 16' of airfoil and at prices Ive been getting that 400 bucks ,so I will set everything up but actual wing on car for run will be one of the last items done. Lots of things more pushing.Building everything except struts and will have mounts ready. So far coost will be the aluminum skin have rest of it here. Yea might seem stupid to be working on it,but have to get anything I can done and with little to no cost right now.The stuff that cost  gets moved down on list.

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Roo Man's Room / Roo Man what for bare chassis
« on: July 20, 2013, 12:49:23 PM »
 Roo man wonder whats best for new chassis to keep rust off especially a long drugout build. Besides building faster.

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 20, 2013, 07:32:03 AM »
 with battery 35 lbs. fuel tanke 4.5 gallon 36 lbs full fire bottle 5 lbs and nitrous bottle 18-23 lbs and all mounted as far foward as possible.Then Im sitting more foward with the high chair postion and rear end is almost tucked under my rear and the motor being 51" out I think there is lot more than normal weight on front. I will be weighing it before hitting the track to check how much front and rear weight.

  Starting with 480 sq in of wing and at -2 degrees and move up till I get to +4* or I feel it needs to be moved back. Sheets for this wing design show 163 lbs down force at 200 mph.Plus 90% of runs will be 1/8 and only 150 to 160 mph which is around 104 lbs down force.Plus front canards have to provide some down force.

  Worst case I pull wing and mount the canrds in front of rear wheels or better yet the aerodynamic effects I have designed that also add down force.     

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 19, 2013, 08:58:30 PM »
looks like 4 aliens escaped and are living in washington at 1600 pennsylvania ave. Suppose to fly thats why it has parachute.

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 19, 2013, 09:05:38 AM »
I figure the front canards will off set the wing.Plus remember wing angle effect amount of down force.A well designe wing can be run at negative angle and still provide down force.I think the key is how much down force you have. With my motor being 51" out I think it will be benifical.If not It only cost me the price of the airfoil tubing and thats enough. I have templet I got from wing off my TA/D and it came from fellow I met in Gainsville who worked for this little company NASA you may have heard of it.

     I spent cpl hours talking with him and got ton of info.Plus he was buuilding wings for guys like Jay Payne at the time.I'm going to reduce the size some since this car is nowhere near 3000 hp,lucky if getting much pass 1000 before nitrous.

  The more I play with this setup thye more I like it.Kind of ties the nostalgia to the new. If not using name Starr Rider I will use the Newstalgia which was idea from start of wanting a modernized FED when I drew first sketchs. Man that issue of Drag Racer that had blue and yellow Jr fueler I think little huslter has cost me lot more then cover price.

  Hey Glen Im sure few thought the first guy to put a blower on dagster engine was crazy too.

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: specs for wing on FED
« on: July 18, 2013, 03:01:47 PM »
Just playing  with idea of how to mount wing.



 The angles are working for me but still figuring on how to get chute body to work with it. In rendering I posted under give me your opion post.It was mounter to top of cage,not crazy about that incase driver gets stupid and flips it over or something of that nature.

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I sent them a video once when they had thing going to get new folks on.They did contact me.The money was a joke to move that far and the cost of living there would have been big thing.

  Now if I had live nearby it wouldn't have been terrible deal. I think they where talking something like 45,000 a year .Not like it would be butt busting work.It was a behind the sceens job,guess I wasn't pretty enough to be in front or camera.Naw had to be they where affraid other guys get jealous of all my female fans. 8)

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Thats why we always bought ten set of pistons,blower can do the same and worst.

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Front Engine Dragsters / Re: tortion front
« on: July 16, 2013, 04:55:39 PM »
love the blu effect. I took apicture like that once with manul camera.Have no idea how I did it. really makes the car stand out.

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Bill,

Looks like your going to need that blower deal you asked about while back. Sons quicker than you are now and with shake. Bolt on a lung and you will change that.

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Wanted to sell / fuel pump under drives
« on: July 15, 2013, 09:59:03 AM »
 I have 2 under drives made by waterman.One 4.5" with 22% gears in it.One 2.25 with 15% gears. new they are 480.00 each.I will deal on one or both.

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Spud Miller's Cave / waterman underdrives
« on: July 15, 2013, 09:57:29 AM »
Spud not sure if you have need for them but I have 2 waterman underdrives one 4.5" and one 2.25".The 4.5 is 22% ad the 2.25 looks to be 14 or 15%.No numbers on 2.25 so had to count rotations.I called waterman and seems they are around 480.00. Will make good deal on one or both.Contact me if interested.Might could work on trade off for fuel pump repairs.I have cpl 1100,990 and 80a pumps I need to get fixed or sale as cores.

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Wanted to sell / Re: blower drive parts
« on: July 15, 2013, 08:41:46 AM »
had to trim about .060 off snout. Ever see a PSI at 120% od looks like thimble and wagon wheel pulley's. Plus I like running smallest puleys to get od I wanted since smaller bottom and top that makes same blower speed as two larger ones means less rotating weight.

 Tip. If you drill or maching opening in each groove it will make slight power differance(dyno proven).Theory is getting air from under belt makes it get full contact ansd some how makes od more accurate. Not sure I buy reason I do know two fellas who tested and said 15 to 20 hp gain. Im keeping full set of pulleys because they are machined and most likely other would worry about holes,never had problem.

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Wanted to sell / Re: blower drive parts
« on: July 14, 2013, 08:41:14 PM »
yea Glen 24 tooth for when you want to go fast and see how quick you can wear the teflon in blower.I think it was for 66% over. I think we  where in Nebraska at Corky's track middle of summer and crappy air.

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