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Drag Racing Discussions => Front Engine Dragsters => Topic started by: GlennLever on September 13, 2016, 05:47:52 PM
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I have a heck of a time with my glasses fogging, particularly on cooler days.
I have tried several different anti fogging sprays on the glasses.
Have tried warming the glasses by setting them on the intake manifold.
I have one last race in the series in October.
If there is any breeze at all with the helmet cracked open the fog on the glasses disapates.
I would like to try an air bottle with a hose into the helmet.
Thoughts, recommendations?
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Little RainX ? I know it puts a film over that might keep from fogging.
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I use Zoi (I think that is how it's spelled). I use it on both sides of my lenses and no fogging.
Mark S
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Glenn.....As you know I bought a new helmet and I love it....and I hate it. It fogs over instantly with the visor down.
I put shaving cream on the lens, I put Rain X anti fog on it and even some stuff Nave gave me and it still fogs up horribly. Friday night i was well past the finish line before lifting as I could not see the stripe.
My old Simpson has a anti fog shield and it works but they do not offer them for the new piece so im going to try two things. They sent me a breath deflector that snaps in the bottom of the eye port and will cover your nose to prevent your breath from coming up. The next is a small helmet blower to fan the lens. The helmet is a DJ Pro Air Flow and has a port for the blower so fingers crossed.
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Little RainX ? I know it puts a film over that might keep from fogging.
I have tried Rain X, did not work for me.
I use Zoi (I think that is how it's spelled). I use it on both sides of my lenses and no fogging.
Mark S
I think you are talking about Zooke, https://www.zooke.com/ and that is what I currently am using, and it does not work either.
I have gone to ski shops and tried their wipes and that does not work either
Glenn.....As you know I bought a new helmet and I love it....and I hate it. It fogs over instantly with the visor down.
I put shaving cream on the lens, I put Rain X anti fog on it and even some stuff Nave gave me and it still fogs up horribly. Friday night i was well past the finish line before lifting as I could not see the stripe.
My old Simpson has a anti fog shield and it works but they do not offer them for the new piece so im going to try two things. They sent me a breath deflector that snaps in the bottom of the eye port and will cover your nose to prevent your breath from coming up. The next is a small helmet blower to fan the lens. The helmet is a DJ Pro Air Flow and has a port for the blower so fingers crossed.
I had thought about a fan/blower, I shy away from that as (maybe a little paranoid) I am concerned with blowing cockpit air into the helmet. God forbid if there was ever a fire I would be blowing that into my helmet.
I'm thinking the best thing would be to have breathable bottled air blowing into the helmet?
My problem is staging and starting, once the dragster is moving the problem goes away.
I have also tried a head sock thinking that would keep my breath from fogging my glasses and that does help (my helmet has a helmet skirt).
I do not want to spend $1,000 on a FAST system.
My eye sight is not terrible and have tried running without glasses but that is not an option either.
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The little blower has a filter on the end of it. May work it may not. Probably the same on the breath deflector.
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Glenn – here’s another product to think on. Maybe call your Optometrist and check if they can order a “prescription stick on lens” that attaches to the inside of your clear helmet visor, similar to this product that sticks on the inside of eye wear glasses.
https://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Astick%20on%20magnifying%20lenses
I know they make them for underwater divers, since wearing prescription glasses with their masks is difficult. Alan
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Get a length of clear hose and stuff one end down the arm and out the sleeve cuff and the other in your mouth, you now have a breathing hose out side the helmet--- cost $1.29
Used to do this (before fresh air helmets) in off-road racing with a filter attached to get thru the silt beds
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The little blower has a filter on the end of it. May work it may not. Probably the same on the breath deflector.
(http://www.frontenginedragsters.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2266.0;attach=5188;image)
Not sure if that would work with the HANS and the close confinement of the chute pack body I have.
I was thinking of a small 1/2 inch tube running up inside the helmet skirt and releasing just a small amount of air just below my mouth.
Thinking of just using another co2 bottle with air instead of co2, a regulator set at 5 pounds (just a small movement of air clears the fog on the glasses), and a tube that I snake up through fire suit and helmet shirt to blow on the glasses. I would need some kind of quick release so that if I had to get out it would pull free without having to touch it (like the jack for the radio ear plugs).
One more race this season and then I have the whole winter to work on it.
However if it is cool in Bowling Green I will have a problem.
Glenn – here’s another product to think on. Maybe call your Optometrist and check if they can order a “prescription stick on lens” that attaches to the inside of your clear helmet visor, similar to this product that sticks on the inside of eye wear glasses.
https://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Astick%20on%20magnifying%20lenses
I know they make them for underwater divers, since wearing prescription glasses with their masks is difficult. Alan
I'll give them a call, the problem I see is the face mask has a flat surface and the helemt is curved.
Anyone have any other ideas?
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Get a length of clear hose and stuff one end down the arm and out the sleeve cuff and the other in your mouth, you now have a breathing hose out side the helmet--- cost $1.29
Used to do this (before fresh air helmets) in off-road racing with a filter attached to get thru the silt beds
I'll try breathing through a 1/2 inch three foot long hose and see if it works.
If I used a bottle with compressed air in it and let it release just below my mouth I think that would work.
Need the bottle, a regulator.
A few more dollars but the same general idea.
With your idea I would not have to worry about getting hung up getting out of the dragster.
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I helped a racer with fogged shield, by getting her a snowmoblie helmet breathguard, that inserts into the helmet.
Try a motorcycle or snowmobile shop, to see which breath guard will fit your helmet.
Back-in-the-day I just put my goggles [ not anymore legal] or helmet shield under my fire suit to get it heated up. Seem to fix it.
Jon
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I helped a racer with fogged shield, by getting her a snowmoblie helmet breathguard, that inserts into the helmet.
Try a motorcycle or snowmobile shop, to see which breath guard will fit your helmet.
Back-in-the-day I just put my goggles [ not anymore legal] or helmet shield under my fire suit to get it heated up. Seem to fix it.
Jon
I have tried setting my glasses on the intake manifold to try heating them up, but with the length of time we sometimes sit in the staging lanes they cool off and then fog.
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I put my thumb on the bottom of the shield when I lower it. That little bit of gap keeps my shield clear. I cant say it would work on your glasses. The shield closes itself by around a 100 ft. if I forget to close it.
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I put my thumb on the bottom of the shield when I lower it. That little bit of gap keeps my shield clear. I cant say it would work on your glasses. The shield closes itself by around a 100 ft. if I forget to close it.
I do not seem to have a problem with the shield, it is my glasses.
The fog on the glasses clears up as soon as there is any air movement.
My biggest problem is when I am staging and watching the tree.
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Because you are breathing heavy inside the helmet, hose should work to clear that up
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Because you are breathing heavy inside the helmet, hose should work to clear that up
I will experiment with breathing through a hose.
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Glenn - hope you find a solution. All of us know what it takes just to make it to the starting line. You can’t see, you can’t go… Alan
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I want to thank someone for adding me to this site. Been lurking here from time to time and thought I would take this opportunity to step up and join in the conversation. Many of you may already know me through personal contact (Hi Bruce ;D ) and other chat spots I belong to.
Regarding glasses and face shields fogging up, here is a simple solution used in by film production people; swab the lenses with isopropyl alcohol before getting in the car. Should be good for an evening but doesn't hurt to reapply.
Another trick taught to me by former N/FC and AA/FA shoe Jeff Utterback is to soak a towel with Dawn Soap (and a small amount of water to thin it out some) and wipe on the lenses, but don't wipe off. Jeff kept his towel in a plastic bag to reuse later.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Gino Ofria
VHS Racing
A/GS 3638
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We use to tape a piece of leather or fabric across the nose hanging to the bottom of the helmet that way you don't breath into the helmet
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I want to thank someone for adding me to this site. Been lurking here from time to time and thought I would take this opportunity to step up and join in the conversation. Many of you may already know me through personal contact (Hi Bruce ;D ) and other chat spots I belong to.
Regarding glasses and face shields fogging up, here is a simple solution used in by film production people; swab the lenses with isopropyl alcohol before getting in the car. Should be good for an evening but doesn't hurt to reapply.
Another trick taught to me by former N/FC and AA/FA shoe Jeff Utterback is to soak a towel with Dawn Soap (and a small amount of water to thin it out some) and wipe on the lenses, but don't wipe off. Jeff kept his towel in a plastic bag to reuse later.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Gino Ofria
VHS Racing
A/GS 3638
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This is not a quick solution but I have always wanted a hose with air to my helmet. Finally did that on my latest set up. bought an F28? blower from Fresh air systems Tech. or FAST. They have a blower that mounts to the helmet but will the big cage padding that looks like an entry exit issue to me.
Your Helmet needs a port and you need to find a spot for the blower. it is light but a little bulky. . I bought a new simpson drag bandit that has the hose option on the left side. you can get the hose option on the top of some helmets I believe.
This is not bottled air but just blown air. Helmet has a fitting straight or 90 degree. I think FAST can add the port on some helmets. I don't notice the hose at all in the car now.like anything it took me a while to get placement of the components figured out. Very nice on Hot days to get some air, and helps with the fog issue in the evenings. Not fast cheap solution but if you are ready for a new helmet I would recommend looking into it. I would never be without mine now.
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I think a blower mounted on the helemt would create clearance problems in my dragster
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Be careful that circulation air within your helmet doesn't dry out your eyes. It may cause you to blink at the wrong time. Just sayin.
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Be careful that circulation air within your helmet doesn't dry out your eyes. It may cause you to blink at the wrong time. Just sayin.
That would not be a good thing.
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So I have an idea.
Mount a small 12 volt squirrel cage fan with a hose attached and the open end pointed at my face.
Use a momentary on push button to turn it on.
When sitting in the staging lanes or when needed before a run push the button to get some air circulation around the glasses to defog them.
While on a run if there ever was a (god for bid) a fire it would be off.
Having problems finding the right fan though.
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Glenn, I assume contact lenses don't work for you? (didn't work for me)
Best luck.
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Mount a small 12 volt squirrel cage fan with a hose attached and the open end pointed at my face.
Use a momentary on push button to turn it on.
When sitting in the staging lanes or when needed before a run push the button to get some air circulation around the glasses to defog them.
While on a run if there ever was a (god for bid) a fire it would be off.
Having problems finding the right fan though.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/261871044751
There are some of what you say over at pegasus also. Seen them . My self am looking at possibly using my very small cordless blower I have.
Bought this to cool the converter off. leaving right on golf cart to put on at tow back
Looking at ways to turn car around fast.
Luke
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Mount a small 12 volt squirrel cage fan with a hose attached and the open end pointed at my face.
Use a momentary on push button to turn it on.
When sitting in the staging lanes or when needed before a run push the button to get some air circulation around the glasses to defog them.
While on a run if there ever was a (god for bid) a fire it would be off.
Having problems finding the right fan though.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/261871044751
There are some of what you say over at pegasus also. Seen them . My self am looking at possibly using my very small cordless blower I have.
Bought this to cool the converter off. leaving right on golf cart to put on at tow back
Looking at ways to turn car around fast.
Luke
Mount this at the front of the car in front of where the flames could come from problem solved maybe
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Not sure I can find or put my hands on anything that will work before the last race which gives me the winter to play with it.
Never tried contacts, not a fan of putting anything in my eyes.
I did order a "mini cooling fan off e-bay and have a place where it might be mounted. We will see.
I like the idea of the momentary push button, in order for it to run I have to hold the switch, will not be doing that under power.
My problems are in the staging lanes and pulling up to the tree
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Glen,
I did this on my old SC car. Years ago.. If i remember right what I found was a squirrel cage type fan that was an old auto accessory for a rear window defogger for a car back in the 60s? pretty hoaky little plastic thing but it worked. This was 25 years ago so i don't know what you could find but that is what I did and worked OK. I just had it on a toggle but on a RED.
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My friend O.B Murphy makes the air kits and helmets for the Drag Boat guys. He may have something or a solution for this problem.
https://www.facebook.com/ob.murphy.7?fref=ts
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I used a little fan this past weekend and it helped while the shield was up.
Talked a little bit about it with some friends.
I need to buy a new helmet this winter, going to get one equipped to handle compressed breathable air.
When I get this done I will post the results.
Glenn