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Title: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: GlennLever on January 27, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
A while back someone posted something about a Front Engine Dragster / Altered.

I came across this on Facebook
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Nightmare AA/FA on January 27, 2015, 07:16:57 AM
Comp. Roadster
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Post by: Draw 3D on January 27, 2015, 07:42:58 AM
That's a dragster, anything over 125 inch wheelbase is a dragster imo.
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Post by: GlennLever on January 27, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
But he is sitting in front of the rear axle.
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Post by: Scott G on January 27, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
Guys first post here. I have been looking into getting a FED but looked at this recently. It is out of NY. Started out as a 125" S&W funny chassis and is currently at a 190". Some have said dragster and others altered. I would like to think at 190" it is a dragster. If anyone knows anything about it let me know. Going to contact the seller here shortly. Thanks Scott

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj286/hogmanSP/2e5af8cea6af45b87ec73c93cb14cf02_zpsd88098dd.jpg)
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: GlennLever on January 27, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
I understand the length definition, but if you are not sitting on top of the rear end to me it isn't and FED
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Post by: H.G. Wells on January 27, 2015, 01:59:26 PM
Glenn, I am with you.
The first one of these I ever saw in West Texas the guy called a "Funster" back half of a funny and they grafter a dragster front end on. It also had a coupe body.

The green one with the bantam body in the first pick is about the slickest one I have ever seen.

I am struggling in choosing another FED or an altered and I would not want one of these. Maybe I need both?
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: LZ on January 27, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
Guys first post here. I have been looking into getting a FED but looked at this recently. It is out of NY. Started out as a 125" S&W funny chassis and is currently at a 190". Some have said dragster and others altered. I would like to think at 190" it is a dragster. If anyone knows anything about it let me know. Going to contact the seller here shortly. Thanks Scott

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj286/hogmanSP/2e5af8cea6af45b87ec73c93cb14cf02_zpsd88098dd.jpg)

Scott had to think aboutit  but knew I saw this car before.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/current-photos-of-modern-day-nostalgia-race-cars.601216/#post-6681179

Posts of that car before it was stretched. Think its same guy. ???
Luke
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Scott G on January 27, 2015, 06:26:42 PM
Spoke with him on the phone and it is the same guy. Started out as a late 70's fuel car at 125". Setup as pictured as a 105 and us now a 190. Still has the clip for a 125"er. Thanks for the post.
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Post by: George on January 27, 2015, 08:28:01 PM
I'm not a fan of a long wheelbase with a wide body. It's different for sure.
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Post by: Curly1 on January 30, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
I am thinking about building a long wheelbase Altered. What I have in mind is about 190" narrow front and a small mono wing right behind seat. Also would like the body to be similar to the newer Top fuel Dragsters. Sort of a Flashback to the Future.
I think it would have several advantages that a standard altered does not have. My current Altered is 125" and has been around a while. I have it working really well now and think I want to move on and try new ideas and challenges. The long wheelbase Altered is the direction I am leaning.
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Curly1 on January 30, 2015, 07:53:32 PM
Here is a nice one do not know who owns it but it is interesting.
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp217/airetexbruce/1385222_700363553338939_3097005370692938111_n_zps49616b7c.jpg) (http://s413.photobucket.com/user/airetexbruce/media/1385222_700363553338939_3097005370692938111_n_zps49616b7c.jpg.html)
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Post by: Zooman on February 03, 2015, 01:51:26 PM
That black beauty is owned by Russel Mills (Sydney Australia) and was built by Richard Botica - the same talented guy who built my Fossil Fueler injected nitro digger.
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Post by: janjon on March 08, 2015, 10:00:44 PM
OP: stretched altered, not FED, IMO. Wheelie bar upside down. IMO.
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Post by: masracingtd1167 on March 21, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
Found this picture today of Dick Tibbits dragster that he built back in the eighties . It orginaly had rear suspension . He ended up taking the shocks out and ran solid struts . He held the national record for c/d with this car for a long time 302 smallblock with a Lenco 3 speed
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Post by: RockinRobinWKR on March 25, 2015, 06:26:28 PM
Anything over 122" is a transformer ... lol! ;)

That Botica built car is absolutely wicked and runs as a Top Alcohol Dragster.

As for the car in question, less the body, that is not anything new. All be it rare, that type of car has been built since at least the 70s and usually runs as a dragster.
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Post by: Curly1 on July 16, 2015, 06:07:03 PM
That black beauty is owned by Russel Mills (Sydney Australia) and was built by Richard Botica - the same talented guy who built my Fossil Fueler injected nitro digger.

Does anyone know what the wheelbase is on this Baby?
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Curly1 on July 16, 2015, 06:07:44 PM
Here is a nice one do not know who owns it but it is interesting.
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp217/airetexbruce/1385222_700363553338939_3097005370692938111_n_zps49616b7c.jpg) (http://s413.photobucket.com/user/airetexbruce/media/1385222_700363553338939_3097005370692938111_n_zps49616b7c.jpg.html)
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Post by: old28 on September 07, 2016, 09:42:54 PM

I'm With Nightmare ----  Comp Roadster even with the wider body.
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Post by: glofria on September 15, 2016, 06:56:13 PM
Guys first post here. I have been looking into getting a FED but looked at this recently. It is out of NY. Started out as a 125" S&W funny chassis and is currently at a 190". Some have said dragster and others altered. I would like to think at 190" it is a dragster. If anyone knows anything about it let me know. Going to contact the seller here shortly. Thanks Scott

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj286/hogmanSP/2e5af8cea6af45b87ec73c93cb14cf02_zpsd88098dd.jpg)

I'd call this a Modified Roadster. And if it is on alcohol a Modified Fuel Roadster. Kind of a hybrid dragster/altered.
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Post by: Calkins on October 06, 2017, 06:13:06 AM
VIA:  NHRA  https://www.nhra.com/news/2009/misc-files-j-keeping-joneses-and-johnsons-etc (https://www.nhra.com/news/2009/misc-files-j-keeping-joneses-and-johnsons-etc)

(http://www.nhra.com/sites/default/files/Insider/2009/maas2.jpg)

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And finally, what's the old saying ... "Everything old is new again"? Take a look at today's nostalgia Top Fuelers with their upright seating and compare them to this piece, Paul (P.G.) "Injun" Johnson's "funny digger" from the early 1970s. I actually found two pics of this car, built by Race Car Specialties and Jim Hume, both taken at Irwindale, but with two different car numbers: one with Johnson's (7717), and this one with Butch Maas' number (7720). Earlier this year, Bob Frey sent me a long list of cars that Maas had driven (compiled a year earlier in Pomona), but this one wasn't one of them, meaning that it was truly forgettable or that he only drove it a very few times. In the shot with Johnson driving, the car has canard wings in front of the rear meats, so I'm guessing that maybe Maas shook it down, it handled poorly, and they added the wings before Johnson took the saddle.

Also on DragList:  http://www.draglist.com/draglist/search.php?q=Funny+Digger&search=Search&exact=exact&VIEW=Extended (http://www.draglist.com/draglist/search.php?q=Funny+Digger&search=Search&exact=exact&VIEW=Extended)
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Calkins on October 06, 2017, 07:12:15 AM
Original car...
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Post by: Calkins on October 06, 2017, 07:15:09 AM
Restored car...
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Post by: Calkins on October 06, 2017, 07:16:42 AM
More of the restored car...
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Post by: GlennLever on October 06, 2017, 07:19:55 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Altered or Front Engine Dragster
Post by: Draw 3D on October 06, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
The NHRA Competition License is divided into 2 types; Type A which is over 125" wheelbase and Type B which is up to 125" wheelbase so if the car that you're driving requires a Type A license then it's a dragster.