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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2014, 12:49:34 PM »
 Try to remember guys and gals:
This engine was assembled and run as a single 4brl engine.
The blower was bolted on after a season of racing with a carburetor.
The engine was not gone thru and clearances not adjusted for blown alcohol racing.
It will be re-assembled with more clearance and the owner will now learn about pulling the pan once a month.

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2014, 01:17:23 PM »
I must be doing somthing wrong--- pull the pan every 3 years when its rebuild time or around 60 passes

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2014, 01:37:17 PM »
I must be doing somthing wrong--- pull the pan every 3 years when its rebuild time or around 60 passes
I run the heck out this dragster, at lest a 100 passes in a year
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2014, 02:48:21 PM »
Not enough tracks and races to do that here on the west coast, but we do have nice weather 8)

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2014, 03:32:28 PM »
Try to remember guys and gals:
This engine was assembled and run as a single 4brl engine.
The blower was bolted on after a season of racing with a carburetor.
The engine was not gone thru and clearances not adjusted for blown alcohol racing.
It will be re-assembled with more clearance and the owner will now learn about pulling the pan once a month.

Matt

Sounds like you have all the issues covered Matt. I would also recommend a set of aluminum rods that would be easier on the crank when you step the blower speed up.

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2014, 09:13:40 AM »
How about coated rod and main bearings ? do any of you guys use them ? I have been using them in mine and they are really nice . They are a little more expensive but well worth it . Every time I have taken my motor apart they look like brand new!

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2014, 07:08:53 AM »
Second run at Gateway Motor Sports Park ran an 8.020 on an 8.000 index
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2014, 06:48:19 PM »
Glenn:
I sent you a facebook note .  If ya get a chance.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2014, 11:39:45 PM »
Glenn:
I sent you a facebook note .  If ya get a chance.
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I'll take a look

Went rounds here at Gateway NDRL lost in the finial by breaking out by .003


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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2014, 02:59:21 PM »
Sounds like you had a great weekend Congrat's!

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2014, 04:49:19 PM »
Sounds like you had a great weekend Congrat's!

We were very happy with the weekend.

Not so happy with the way the "Pro Comp" Classes were run.

There were three 8.0 dragsters, in the first round of eliminations not one of them ran against another. I was paired against the 9.0 top qualifier (I was 8.0 top qualifier), another as paired against an 8.5 vehicle, and the third I do not know who he got paired with. Just does not seem right. It was explained to me that that was the rules and it was done for ease of running the series.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2014, 06:45:09 AM »
glen did they change the format for pro comp?
Troy jump in

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2014, 12:50:49 PM »
Glenn, does Gateway create their ladder based on the different index classes ? Case in point, you qualified with a 8.02 on your 8.00 index, but if a 9.00 index car qualified with a 9.01, he would be higher up the ladder than you. Which is what NHRA does in Comp Elim. Also what ladder system are they using, in our series, NHRA Heritage JrFuel, we use a Pro ladder, ie 1 races 8 in a 8 car field, Sportsman ladder is more like 1 races 5 in a 8 car field, again Q times based on indexes .
I hope this helps clear-up what Gateway is doing with Pro Comp.

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2014, 06:04:12 PM »
Glenn, does Gateway create their ladder based on the different index classes ? Case in point, you qualified with a 8.02 on your 8.00 index, but if a 9.00 index car qualified with a 9.01, he would be higher up the ladder than you. Which is what NHRA does in Comp Elim. Also what ladder system are they using, in our series, NHRA Heritage JrFuel, we use a Pro ladder, ie 1 races 8 in a 8 car field, Sportsman ladder is more like 1 races 5 in a 8 car field, again Q times based on indexes .
I hope this helps clear-up what Gateway is doing with Pro Comp.

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Gateway did not set up the running of the NDRL series, NDRL cars were run against themselves, and not cars from Gateway ProComp

Troy was the number one qualifier for the ProComp class. It was explained to me that is why I ran against him.

From what I understand there is no ladder after that for any of the ProComp other than 7.0 and 7.5.

With the way it is currently set up it seems to be a disadvantage to be a faster car (you have to sit at the staggered light and wait for the slower car to leave first).

I know it effected my RTs as I was cutting .020 lights in qualifying but .128 lights when running a staggered light (mind set of do go, don't go until you light comes on).

I do not want to make a big thing out of this, just did not seem right to me that there were three 8.0 vehicles in the first round of eliminations and none of them ran against each other.

It is my intention to express my feeling on this in a very polite letter to the NDRL officers.

In the Gasser Series races I have run locally a board is set up in the pits and vehicles are paired based on qualifying times it it was the responsibility of the drivers to pair up in the staging lanes. This was an ET based system and I really liked the idea of index as there is more skill required in the tuning area, and I was just starting to get comfortable in that area.

I may have to reevaluate my expectations.

The rules for NDRL were written long before I came along so I have no right to complain.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2014, 06:17:16 PM »
Steve, Nothing has changed at all. The format has not changed since day one.

I was number one qualifier in PRO Comp and had the bye. The bye runner goes to the back of the line and sits till he either gets it or he runs it.  We could go ahead and give the bye runner the bye and pull him out of the line at that time but if someone fails to report they cannot make the show then we have two byes and that looks bad. There were two 8.00 cars with Glenn and Jarrod Bradshaw. Jarrod ran a 8.50 car and Glenn got me.

Jon, the Comp and Gas classes "Qualify" only to award points for doing so, making sure the cars are going laps as we are selling a show to the track, and to figure out who earns the bye for round 1. There technically is no number 1 qualifier for each index just one overall for the group. Im not slighting Glenn at all for being the best of the two 8.00 cars as he clearly was...he ran close to his index every lap and I do have the run sheets here to prove that. As with Heritage, we use a pro ladder for the 7.0 and 7.5 classes.
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