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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #150 on: May 20, 2016, 07:37:02 PM »
Looks like Fort Knox Glen. Very nice piece!

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #151 on: July 23, 2016, 07:20:46 PM »
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #152 on: July 25, 2016, 08:44:49 AM »
Nice, If you dont have somebody in front guiding you back, thats OK, but then you should back further behind the line and then drive forward into the beams, why take a chance on lining up crooked. The 5 feet behind the line is not enough to be possitive that you are straight.

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2016, 09:35:41 AM »
Nice, If you dont have somebody in front guiding you back, thats OK, but then you should back further behind the line and then drive forward into the beams, why take a chance on lining up crooked. The 5 feet behind the line is not enough to be possitive that you are straight.

It is just the two of us most times (my wife and I).

We have radios and she guides me back, works out really well.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2016, 09:27:30 PM »
Well I'm keeping the streak alive, this is my year for disappointments

Out again in the first round.

We do have the tune up set though, we had lost it.


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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2016, 08:33:00 AM »
Glenn , noticed something on the 2nd TT, at the hit you dumped a lot of liquid out the "weed burners" right in front of the left tire----- NOT GOOD and it did appear that the car went left a little. 

   "ZOOMIES"

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #156 on: August 05, 2016, 12:35:21 PM »
Glenn , noticed something on the 2nd TT, at the hit you dumped a lot of liquid out the "weed burners" right in front of the left tire----- NOT GOOD and it did appear that the car went left a little. 

   "ZOOMIES"

GOOD EYE.

I believe it to be fuel, not water.

I am using a MSD two step box and when sitting at the light on the transbrake I have the go pedal to the floor, but the MSD box is only allowing it to rev to 5,800.

If it were water it would continue to spit it out all the way down the track, but it does not, It clears up almost instantly after the launch.

If you listen very carefully you can also hear the engine clean up it's tone, almost sounds like a shift.

All of this will go away after this season with the new engine.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #157 on: August 05, 2016, 01:58:11 PM »
Liquid is liquid and underneath the tire at the hit is  No Bueno

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #158 on: August 05, 2016, 03:58:52 PM »

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If you listen very carefully you can also hear the engine clean up it's tone, almost sounds like a shift.

All of this will go away after this season with the new engine.
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Why will all of this go away with the new engine? Are you installing longer weed burners to get past the tire or zoomies? If your up against a rev limiter at the starting line you are going to spit out raw fuel

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #159 on: August 05, 2016, 05:47:00 PM »
A sle would help the raw fuel deal. Keeping the BV shut some and system closer,plus it should pickup some 60' wise by being cleaner from the start.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #160 on: August 05, 2016, 08:36:55 PM »
Liquid is liquid and underneath the tire at the hit is  No Bueno

You are right, been this way since day one, like the weed burners, going to live with it for the rest of the season. If you watch the video fuel is blown beyond the tires. Just an excuse, the current set up is bad and will be rectified with the new setup.

 

Why will all of this go away with the new engine? Are you installing longer weed burners to get past the tire or zoomies? If your up against a rev limiter at the starting line you are going to spit out raw fuel
I will not use a chip to set the RPM on the new setup. Have not finalized what I will be doing. Depends on if I want to design it so it is legal for Bakersfield. Two possible solutions, 1) use an air cylinder to open the throttle on the lunch (barrel valve would only be open far enough for launch RPM engine would not load up on fuel 2) use a detent in the peddle to “feel the correct RPM for launch. I have a freind that is doing that now and it works for him and is legal at Backersfield

 
A sle would help the raw fuel deal. Keeping the BV shut some and system closer,plus it should pickup some 60' wise by being cleaner from the start.

“sle” ?  Yes the sixty foot would be much better if the engine was not loaded up with fuel, once it is burnt off it takes off like a rocket. Sixty foots now at 1.22. the thing hauls at the top end.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #161 on: August 05, 2016, 09:45:08 PM »
We run the Ford with a very clean idle & do not use the transbrake. Our 60ft's are 1.12 - 1.14 and this is with real bad tire shake. I use a very tight converter. I'm going to go with a 13 X 32  the 16 X 33 on the car now are just to big, I had them and ran them to just get a direction to go before I spent $.
 I have been running a unstriped low boost blower, now I will put on my good 871 & more overdrive with new tires. I have never felt the need to stage at any RPM other than idle with a blown car & our 60 ft. times have always been pretty good. Glenn have you tried leaving from idle ?

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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #162 on: August 06, 2016, 06:20:57 AM »
We run the Ford with a very clean idle & do not use the transbrake. Our 60ft's are 1.12 - 1.14 and this is with real bad tire shake. I use a very tight converter. I'm going to go with a 13 X 32  the 16 X 33 on the car now are just to big, I had them and ran them to just get a direction to go before I spent $.
 I have been running a unstriped low boost blower, now I will put on my good 871 & more overdrive with new tires. I have never felt the need to stage at any RPM other than idle with a blown car & our 60 ft. times have always been pretty good. Glenn have you tried leaving from idle ?

Never do that (leave from idle). Even in my door car and foot braking I would launch above an idle. I could give it a try after I get a good qualifying round at the next race.
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Re: Glenn's dragster thread
« Reply #163 on: August 18, 2016, 09:12:41 PM »
For your Bakersfield air throttle controller are you planning on running NE1 7.60 index? The reason I ask if you are planning on 7.0 pro the throttle controller is not legal.

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« Reply #164 on: August 19, 2016, 06:14:13 AM »
For your Bakersfield air throttle controller are you planning on running NE1 7.60 index? The reason I ask if you are planning on 7.0 pro the throttle controller is not legal.

Yes, that is why I have the backup idea of the use a detent in the peddle to “feel the correct RPM for launch. I have a friend that is doing that now and it works for him and is legal at Backersfield.
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