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Hoosier replacement tires
« on: March 01, 2017, 11:36:22 AM »
Well went to replace my tires as I am seeing some cracking in the side wall.

I was running 31 12 15, with a 97 inch circumference, with a c11 compound (mid range) on a 12 inch rim

They do not make them any more.

they offer

31.5 13.5 15,  with a 99.5 inch circumference, with a c07 compound (mid range (little softer)) they say they fit on 12 - 14 recommend 14

32.0 14.0 15,  with a 102 inch circumference, with a c07 compound (mid range (little softer)) they say they fit on 12 - 14 recommend 14

I believe you have

33 12 15,  with a 103 inch circumference, with a XXX compound (XXX XXXX)  recommend rim XX

I have been running 8.00 at 165 but could set up to 7.5 at 180

Suggestions?
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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 01:02:00 PM »
Always ran the 33 12 15 on a 10" rim and never once had issues. Ran both 7.50 and 7.0pro with the same tire. With GY's straight numbers signify high growth comp tire, listings that include numbers with ".5" are door car tires that do not grow.Compounds dont matter unless you change tires every event, I ran whatever they had in stock and ran them for 2-3 years.
Cracking along the edge of the sidewall where the compound tread rubber ends, is normal

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 05:58:37 PM »
So these are the cracks I am talking about, I have wet the sides of the tire and then used photo shop to up the contrast so you can see them.



They are all the way around the tire and through the lettering on the tire.



Are you saying I do not need to worry about this cracking?

Below is a scale of the the compound of Hoosier tires. Currently I am in the middle of the scale and remember I am a low HP vehicle. Hoosier is saying that I will dead hook if I go to the D05 compound tire.




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« Last Edit: March 01, 2017, 06:05:14 PM by GlennLever »
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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 06:04:36 PM »
Why don't you buy a set of the D2585 GoodYears that Jon has specially made? They are 31 x 12 -15

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 06:10:09 PM »
Why don't you buy a set of the D2585 GoodYears that Jon has specially made? They are 31 x 12 -15

Those would be narrower than what I am currently running, I do not know the circumference,  and I do not, as yet, know how soft they are.
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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 06:40:31 PM »
I was running 31 12 15, with a 97 inch circumference, with a c11 compound (mid range) on a 12 inch rim

Why don't you buy a set of the D2585 GoodYears that Jon has specially made? They are 31 x 12 -15

Those would be narrower than what I am currently running, I do not know the circumference,  and I do not, as yet, know how soft they are.

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 06:53:42 PM »
The Hoosier 18225 has worked well for our setup.

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2017, 06:55:39 PM »
when did the "checks" show up??? recently? or have they been there and you just noticed??
 If you are uncomfortable or have any doubts, by all means change them out, I have only run the GY's on my car so I dont know what to say about the Hoosiers without have them directly in front of me. but sidewall rubber compound is different then tread compound and it does "Check" where the 2 are vulcanized together.  Cracking due to old age or letting the car sit on the tire while flat are issues, creases in the sidewall are never a good thing. Get new ones and use these for show or travling on and keep the new ones covered up with just enough air till needed.
  Compounds--- I need tires and go to the truck or sales store, ask for my size and throw a compound number out there. they answer back with we only have this compound right now, I need tires so I buy them and never worried about it,  Nascar,IRL,F1 or any other asphalt race tire that does not run on concreet and/or VHT is very compound sensitive and those cars go thru a boxcar full at a race for maximum performance. At our level and the types of tracks we run at, the tire gets old before we blow thru the tread, so compound is there for the first of many passes, and then goes away, but the VHT compinsates. Invest in a tire durometer and keep notes
Unfortunatly we dont have the time or money to do tire testing with differnt compounds and the tire reps are not interested in doing them because the sales volume is so low for them to do a comparisen, add to that, that they mostly deal with rear motor cars every week vs front motor cars 3-4 times a year

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2017, 09:01:02 PM »
I was running 31 12 15, with a 97 inch circumference, with a c11 compound (mid range) on a 12 inch rim

Why don't you buy a set of the D2585 GoodYears that Jon has specially made? They are 31 x 12 -15

Those would be narrower than what I am currently running, I do not know the circumference,  and I do not, as yet, know how soft they are.

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Yes Glen I am at a question here also you said yours were a 31x12 so are the D2585's they are a D03 compound and are the JR Fuel go to tire

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 04:37:52 AM »
I was running 31 12 15, with a 97 inch circumference, with a c11 compound (mid range) on a 12 inch rim

Why don't you buy a set of the D2585 GoodYears that Jon has specially made? They are 31 x 12 -15

Those would be narrower than what I am currently running, I do not know the circumference,  and I do not, as yet, know how soft they are.

?

Yes Glen I am at a question here also you said yours were a 31x12 so are the D2585's they are a D03 compound and are the JR Fuel go to tire

Your right my current tires are 12 wide.

the d05 and the c11 compounds are very far apart



Bruce, yes I just noticed the checking, tires were never allowed to sit flat

Leaving for Indianapolis now to pick up the cast iron engine

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 06:11:18 PM »
And on a "nearly totally unrelated" note: Why won't Hoosier get their whitewall logo paint process more under control so the white paint stays INSIDE the lettering on the sidewall. It looks pretty unprofessional to me and sends a message ,"Quality??? Not so much."

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2017, 08:14:57 PM »
I just got a set of 18225 from Bruce at Hoosier. I believe he is in the Midwest location. Very helpful guy. And I do believe they make one other slick very similar.
If it jams force it, if it breaks it needed replaced anyways

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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 09:50:49 PM »
M/T's? Not saying they are better even if I believe they are. No personal experiance to back  belief's. I did put my money where thought is and bought new set of  of M/T's.Reason where based on research and lots of positive feed back  .Versatility in wide range of track tempt and consistent results  where major factors.
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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2017, 11:21:45 PM »
Glenn, I'm racing with a new driver at the March Meet this week end, but I'd like to give you some input, but I'm dead tired, and need to get some sleep. I'll get to you hopefully Friday nite, can you remind me how much your car weighs and what trans, and what rear gear you have ?
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Re: Hoosier replacement tires
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 02:31:02 AM »
I just got a set of 18225 from Bruce at Hoosier. I believe he is in the Midwest location. Very helpful guy. And I do believe they make one other slick very similar.
I expect it was Bruce Browning at Hoosier Tire Midwest. They have a location in Springfield Illinois. I have also spoke with him on the needs of the FED combination. He recommended the 12 x31 or a 12 x33. I race with several guys who run bigger Hoosiers but I am sold on the 18225. We also have a Hoosier dealer in Springfield . He might offer up a better deal? http://www.garyhoosierman.com/

I am about 10 miles from either location. George