Author Topic: the Prisoner  (Read 22818 times)

Offline GlennLever

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1991
    • View Profile
    • The Lever Family Site
  • Your Best Time: 1/4 mile 7.950 at 165 MPH
  • Your Engine: Pontiac 461 Alky Blown
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway, NY
  • Your Vehicle: Front Engine Dragster
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2015, 09:29:46 PM »
Is Matt's dragster going to hit the track?

I find it hard to believe you could not get the Hemi to fit?????????
Glenn R. Lever
Rochester, New York 14617-2012
My Cars https://www.lever-family-racing.com/

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2015, 07:40:56 AM »
Is Matt's dragster going to hit the track?

I find it hard to believe you could not get the Hemi to fit?????????
Ya I know right??!! :o
I can get it to work but the time involved making the high port plates, Headers , new steering rod,etc, it just wasn't worth it to me.
Next car is going to be a Funny car anyway.  ;)
hope your backs better c ya Glenn.
LZ
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline Frontenginedragsters

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170
    • View Profile
    • Pro-Formance Specialties
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2015, 01:27:49 PM »
The next dragster to hit the burnout box will be the red FED for John Shaff. Coming along with help from friends.
My car goes for chassis modifications this fall.
Luke FED will be out the summer of 2016.
Things take time when you have no time.

Matt
Driving a Front Engine Dragster builds character and keeps you awake for a 1/4 mile at a time.
http://www.pro-formancespecialties.com/

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2015, 07:45:10 PM »
Have you hugged your racecar engine today??? ::)




"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2015, 08:45:23 AM »
Hey everybody Glenn doesn't have a general BS section so putting it here.
With that Our Family and the Prisoner crew wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving. For those going through life issues we hope for your best outcome and wish strength for you .
Thanks all
Luke

Oh by way Prisoner powertrain parts are coming in.
 ;D
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline GlennLever

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1991
    • View Profile
    • The Lever Family Site
  • Your Best Time: 1/4 mile 7.950 at 165 MPH
  • Your Engine: Pontiac 461 Alky Blown
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway, NY
  • Your Vehicle: Front Engine Dragster
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2015, 10:17:49 AM »
Hey everybody Glenn doesn't have a general BS section so putting it here.
With that Our Family and the Prisoner crew wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving. For those going through life issues we hope for your best outcome and wish strength for you .
Thanks all
Luke

Oh by way Prisoner powertrain parts are coming in.
 ;D

And a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you as well
Glenn R. Lever
Rochester, New York 14617-2012
My Cars https://www.lever-family-racing.com/

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2015, 06:51:55 PM »
A Ford in that thar thang.....
The Prisoner meets its power.
Its only a Template Engine plate. As mentioned in previous posts the Chevy plate that came with car was off center from rear.
Didn't feel I had good enough dimensions to just cut a 100 dollar pc of plate. So its a temporary one to check the adjusted dimensions calculated and I am going to do a repeatability check on the rear by doing an R and R. A feel good if you will that alls well.
Had these parts sitting around and just had to take a moment ,to take a look see, get a giggle.
The intake the injector is atop is of a new composite design that molecularly changes the Alky to Nitro and is good for 2 tenths.. :P :P :P
Luke

« Last Edit: December 16, 2015, 05:17:13 PM by LZ »
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline ricardo1967

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 578
    • View Profile
  • Your Best Time: No full pass yet.
  • Your Engine: Alky SBC 400
  • Your Track: Brown County Dragway (Bean Blossom, IN)
  • Your Vehicle: 173" FED
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2015, 07:25:34 PM »
A Ford in that thar thang.....
The Prisoner meets its power.
Its only a Template Engine plate. As mentioned in previous posts the Chevy plate that came with car was off center from rear.
Didn't feel I had good enough dimensions to just cut a 100 dollar pc of plate. So its a temporary one to check the adjusted dimensions calculated and I am going to do a repeatability check on the rear by doing an R and R. A feel good if you will that alls well.
Had these parts sitting around and just had to take a moment ,to take a look see, get a giggle.
The intake is of a new composite design that molecularly changes the Alky to Nitro and is good for 2 tenths.. :P :P :P
Luke

Looking great, hey that's a turkey catcher!

Offline GlennLever

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1991
    • View Profile
    • The Lever Family Site
  • Your Best Time: 1/4 mile 7.950 at 165 MPH
  • Your Engine: Pontiac 461 Alky Blown
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway, NY
  • Your Vehicle: Front Engine Dragster
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2015, 08:18:31 PM »
Intake looks like Steve"s, NICE
Glenn R. Lever
Rochester, New York 14617-2012
My Cars https://www.lever-family-racing.com/

Offline Frontenginedragsters

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170
    • View Profile
    • Pro-Formance Specialties
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2015, 05:11:02 PM »
 You are straying from the norm. You should have a rear engine dragster with a B B Chevy and a carburetor.
Tell us more about this FED with a big block Ford and a "Shotgun" injector.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2015, 05:17:27 PM by Frontenginedragsters »
Driving a Front Engine Dragster builds character and keeps you awake for a 1/4 mile at a time.
http://www.pro-formancespecialties.com/

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2015, 05:21:31 PM »
You are straying from the norm. You should have a rear engine dragster with a B B Chevy and a carburetor.
Tell us more about this FED with a big block Ford and a "Shotgun" injector.
Hey was thinking. Would any info off this help with your front half fit up??
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline Frontenginedragsters

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170
    • View Profile
    • Pro-Formance Specialties
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2015, 02:53:00 PM »
Happy Birthday Luke  ;D
Driving a Front Engine Dragster builds character and keeps you awake for a 1/4 mile at a time.
http://www.pro-formancespecialties.com/

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2016, 09:24:58 AM »
OMG a progress report. :o
So with talk over Engine Dimensions ,what were looking for-hope to accomplish for the last few weeks. The cam was ordered yesterday here we go.
Very good people  http://www.bulletcams.com
Matt has had a few Engines out there with great success with these cams. Kind of hard for him being an Engle loyalist but times change.
Biggest issue I have right now is that the car is set up with a 9 inch Strange 12 bolt center section combination.
The highest pro gear available for a 12 bolt is 4:11. When a 3:89 will be more desirable to get the engine at a more livable RPM.
I have 4:33's in it now on a 31 inch Good Year (Jon we will be talking)
With just getting car out getting it and driver straightened out this would be acceptable right now as won't be making any 1/4 mile passes till ready.
But wanking it and looking at big picture my hope is to get this car Nostalgia Eliminator ready ultimatly. Hey a guy can dream can't he?? But mostly in our instance this car is just for fun and our local track bracket race. Lots of test and tune nights for our deal.
Am at point now of fabbing Engine plates. It seems I ultimately have to put a 9" center section in it to get the desired GR.  The 9" hypoid is .75 lower then a 12 bolt. Sooooo I have to lower engine accordingly. This will eat into the precious time and money coffee can.
Paths forward are either:
- Live with 4:33 which will get us through initial shakedowns this year getting car out faster.
    -Then either change to the 4:11 and taller tire eventually.  Not really my favorite thought at this moment especially if the 4:11's are not nominal
- Changing to the 9" straight away and not having to remake engine plates and what ever little thing pops up.
Along all this is the thought of starting line ratio and torque convertor.
Pretty much answered my thoughts typing this out.  :-\
Jon if you're reading this what kind of tire growth do you think you get with a D2585 on a 12 inch wheel? Im not thinking much ???
Will see where this ends up and let y'all know so not to make same mistakes I make.
Thanks guys . 
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."

Offline masracingtd1167

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 976
  • bill masiello Shelton Ct.
    • View Profile
  • Your Best Time: 7.40's at 181 on motor 6.94 at 192 nitrous
  • Your Engine: 394 chevy
  • Your Track: Lebanon Valley Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2003 Neil and Parks
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2016, 11:49:15 AM »
If you have to buy tires I think Jon also has the 1288 goodyears that are 12x33 that are a very good tire for a FED .

Offline LZ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
  • Your Engine: In progress
  • Your Track: Empire Dragway
  • Your Vehicle: 2010 225" S&W
Re: the Prisoner
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2016, 06:57:41 PM »
If you have to buy tires I think Jon also has the 1288 goodyears that are 12x33 that are a very good tire for a FED .
Thanks Bill yes that is another item to use in equation.   :-\ 
"I am not a number.... I am a free man."